Portis is a BIG problem!!!

[maroonandblack30]

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

i think somebody said the same thing about kurt warner

somebody said somethin similar about bill belichick when he got kicked out of cleveland

probably said the same thing about brett favre

yea.....theres never been anybody in the league to bounce back after a down year....especially not anybody older than 27

QB is totally different position, one in which you dont
take nearly the physical punishment. Plus you don't hear about Warner or Farve missing practice or refusing to play in the preseason.

Belichick is a coach, how does that even compare?

[joethiesmanfan]

Ultimately we gonna need Portis soon.

[SolidSnake84]

For what? To insult the team and throw everybody under the bus when we are mathmatically eliminated from the playoffs in a few weeks?

[Monkeydad]

Heard Zorn this morning say that Portis will start when he comes back, but will be pulled for Betts if he's ineffective. Also, Zorn stated that Portis will not be allowed to come back until he completes a full week of practice.

If he sticks to his word, I'm fine with Portis starting again. With Levi Jones and Chad Rhinehart helping out the line, maybe CP can do something productive again.

[over the mountain]

canton legend - running backs endure alot of wear and tear. of course portis was a great top 5 back for awhile in this league and was by far our best offensive player for years. we know that.

but portis has over 2,000 carries now, injuries are stacking up, bone spurs dont just go away to my kowledge, and he rarely practices for years now.

when turner hits 2,000 carries i doubt he will be just as explosive as he is now. at 300 plus carries a year, turner will need more than 4 straight seasons of 300 plus carries before he is near portis' current wear and tear of 2,100 somethin carries.

lol, in 4 - 6 years do you think turner will still be a top 5 or 10 runningback in this league? add in turner will probably not even finish at least one of those years b/c of season ending injury.

[CantonLegend]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

canton legend - running backs endure alot of wear and tear. of course portis was a great top 5 back for awhile in this league and was by far our best offensive player for years. we know that.

but portis has over 2,000 carries now, injuries are stacking up, bone spurs dont just go away to my kowledge, and he rarely practices for years now.

when turner hits 2,000 carries i doubt he will be just as explosive as he is now. at 300 plus carries a year, turner will need more than 4 straight seasons of 300 plus carries before he is near portis' current wear and tear of 2,100 somethin carries.

lol, in 4 - 6 years do you think turner will still be a top 5 or 10 runningback in this league? add in turner will probably not even finish at least one of those years b/c of season ending injury.

im not sure what you are trying to get at......you are saying that michael turner wont be as good as portis or you are saying that he isnt as good now as portis was then?

im not sure what you're trying to say

i know one thing....there arent many backs in the league that are asked to carry their teams anymore......portis is one of the very few and hes one of the very few that is actually capable of doing it on a consistant basis

as for the other post....i wasnt trying to call anyone out....just trying to point out how stupid asking someone if they've seen a game actually is

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

im not sure what you are trying to get at......you are saying that michael turner wont be as good as portis or you are saying that he isnt as good now as portis was then?

im not sure what you're trying to say

my point was pretty clear. runningbacks decline alot quicker than other positions. portis has over 2100 carries. just imagine what turner is going to look like in 2014 when he might be close to 2000 carries.

the 2006 portis was a top 5 top 10 runningback. the 2009 and 2010 portis is not.

the 2009 turner is a top 5 top 10 runningback. the 2013 and 2014 turner will not.

it seems your stuck on thinking the portis now is the same one who put up 1500 yd seasons. hes not.

[12thMan]

I love it how CantonLegend says he'll be back to "address" everyone! Wha a riot. LOL What are you getting paid to "address" us now! LOL..Mods please don't close this thread. If nothing else, I can run up post count talking to this cat. hahaha

[over the mountain]

do me a favor and dont "address" me later. your absolutism and insistence that your view is right makes for a boring self-centered conversation.

[12thMan]

Guys, we're wasting our time. It's great entertainment though. No way in HELL will a fan of another team visit another fan site, invited or not, and is SO adament about a running back who's clearly on the slide.

Think about it, how many of us go to the Giants site and stick up for Brandon Jacobs or Miami's site and stick up for Ricky Williams? I don't know if I'm the only one, but I'm getting a kick out of CL.

Hey, CL what time are you off work man? LOL

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Guys, we're wasting our time. It's great entertainment though. No way in HELL will a fan of a another team visit another fan site, invited or not, and is SO adament about a running back who's clearly on the slide.

Think about it, how many of us go to the Giants site and stick up for Brandon Jacobs or Miami's site and stick up for Ricky Williams? I don't know if I'm the only one, but I'm getting a kick out of CL.

Hey, CL what time are you off work man? LOL

The only reason he is so adamant is because he can't admit when he is wrong. No point in talking to the dude because he's really just talking to himself. He's the king of conversational masturbation.

[maroonandblack30]

Originally Posted by Lotus

The only reason he is so adamant is because he can't admit when he is wrong. No point in talking to the dude because he's really just talking to himself. He's the king of conversational masturbation.

Exactly...he is just invested in his arguement. But I do question why he is such a strong CP supporter even though he is a Saints fan.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by maroonandblack30

Exactly...he is just invested in his arguement. But I do question why he is such a strong CP supporter even though he is a Saints fan.

We should all go to the Saints forum and ask why isn't Reggie Bush getting more carries.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

We should all go to the Saints forum and ask why isn't Reggie Bush getting more carries.

I want Deuce McAllister back. LOL.

[CantonLegend]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

We should all go to the Saints forum and ask why isn't Reggie Bush getting more carries.

feel free........blackandgold.com

or i could just tell you that his fumbles are costing the team points, field position, and momentum

he is very talented but his fumbles are very costly......bush has an issue with running up the hole....he tends to try and hit homeruns on every touch rather than just take what he can get.....because of it, he strikes out a lot by getting negative yardage and fumbles