Bin Laden Killed

mlmpetert · 05-02-2011, 11:35 AM

ABC: ‘Exclusive’ Video From Inside OBL’s Compound After the Raid | The Blaze

mlmpetert · 05-02-2011, 12:02 PM

These guys sound completely badass:

The members of Team 6 are all “black” operatives. They exist outside military protocol, engage in operations that are at the highest level of classification and often outside the boundaries of international law. To maintain plausible deniability in case they are caught, records of black operations are rarely, if ever, kept.

The development of SEAL Team 6 was in direct response to the 1980 attempt to rescue the American hostages held in Iran. The mission was a terrific failure that fell apart at many points and illustrated the need for a dedicated counter-terrorist team capable of operating with the utmost secrecy.

Johnson explains the name is allegedly an intentional lie that dates back to the time of the Cold War. At the time, there were only two other SEAL teams and the name was meant to confuse the Soviets.

DevGru belongs to the Joint Special Operations Command, an extraordinary and unusual collection of classified standing task forces and special-missions units. They report to the president and operate worldwide based on the legal (or extra-legal) premises of classified presidential directives. Though the general public knows about the special SEALs and their brothers in Delta Force, most JSOC missions never leak. We only hear about JSOC when something goes bad (a British aid worker is accidentally killed) or when something really big happens (a merchant marine captain is rescued at sea), and even then, the military remains especially sensitive about their existence. Several dozen JSOC operatives have died in Pakistan over the past several years. Their names are released by the Defense Department in the usual manner, but with a cover story — generally, they were killed in training accidents in eastern Afghanistan. That’s the code.

The highly trained operatives who killed Osama bin Laden are part of a counterterrorism group so specialized that no one can apply to join it.

Instead, they are recruited. They are chosen from existing SEAL teams, making the unit an elite within an elite.

That may be only partly true, though. National Journal says members in general can be recruited from a variety of places including the CIA.

Again, all the information comes with the “alleged” tag since the team’s work is so secretive and none of its details can ever be confirmed.

So What Exactly is the Navy‘s Secret ’SEAL Team 6?’ | The Blaze

JoeRedskin · 05-02-2011, 12:41 PM

Clearly, the guys who did this are so f'ing good at what they do it is beyond amazing. I can imagine the following scene in the Oval Office:

Obama: Okay, I have the confirmed intelligence. Team 6 is authorized to carry out the mission - kill Bin Laden and retrieve the body.

Unknown Commander (Standing with Obama - and after speaking into a small mic in his lapel): Yes sir. Bin Laden is dead sir.

Obama: Good when will the operation take place?

U.C.: It just did, sir. Bin Laden is now dead. What do you want us to with the body.

Obama: Wait, when did you kill him?

U.C.: Just now sir, after you gave the order.

Obama: Ummm, okay. Good job!

It is unfortunate for that the men who carried out this mission can't be given the parade they deserve. I am sure, given the type of people it takes to carry out this mission, that they probably feel the mission's success was its own reward and that they are getting plenty of accolades within their community (like I tell my son: do the right thing work hard, and the right people will know your worth). At the same time, it would be both cathartic and unifying for the nation to be able to shower them with cheers.

firstdown · 05-02-2011, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Clearly, the guys who did this are so f'ing good at what they do it is beyond amazing. I can imagine the following scene in the Oval Office:

Obama: Okay, I have the confirmed intelligence. Team 6 is authorized to carry out the mission - kill Bin Laden and retrieve the body.

Unknown Commander (Standing with Obama - and after speaking into a small mic in his lapel): Yes sir. Bin Laden is dead sir.

Obama: Good when will the operation take place?

U.C.: It just did, sir. Bin Laden is now dead. What do you want us to with the body.

Obama: Wait, when did you kill him?

U.C.: Just now sir, after you gave the order.

Obama: Ummm, okay. Good job!

It is unfortunate for that the men who carried out this mission can't be given the parade they deserve. I am sure, given the type of people it takes to carry out this mission, that they probably feel the mission's success was its own reward and that they are getting plenty of accolades within their community (like I tell my son: do the right thing work hard, and the right people will know your worth). At the same time, it would be both cathartic and unifying for the nation to be able to shower them with cheers.

They would become marked men and it would endanger everyone they know.

NC_Skins · 05-02-2011, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

They would become marked men and it would endanger everyone they know.

This.

No way in hell I would ever want anybody in Black Ops put on TV or exposed, no matter how great their service is. Chances are it would put their family (and themselves) in grave danger.

mlmpetert · 05-02-2011, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

This.

No way in hell I would ever want anybody in Black Ops put on TV or exposed, no matter how great their service is. Chances are it would put their family (and themselves) in grave danger.

Also Im pretty sure the type of person that devotes their life to service and is handpicked to join the most covert and elite special opps group within one of the most elite special opps groups in the entire world isnt really the type of guy looking for recognition and parades. I wouldn’t be too surprised if a lot of the guys involved don’t even really have the wife, kids, and a dog family life either.

JoeRedskin · 05-02-2011, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

No way in hell I would ever want anybody in Black Ops put on TV or exposed, no matter how great their service is. Chances are it would put their family (and themselves) in grave danger.

My original point was simply that it was a shame they couldn't be personally thanked by the public. I thought it implicit in the sentiment that I recognized it was impossible to do so b/c of the danger it would represent to the men who carried out the action.

Just b/c I recognize it can't be done, doesn't lessen my desire to shake the hand of each of the men who participated.

CRedskinsRule · 05-02-2011, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

This.

No way in hell I would ever want anybody in Black Ops put on TV or exposed, no matter how great their service is. Chances are it would put their family (and themselves) in grave danger.

Ok, not 100% applicable, but just an outstanding video anytime:

YouTube - You Can't Handle The Truth

12thMan · 05-02-2011, 01:42 PM

I guess all kinds of info is being released now.

So I just heard that as soon as the SEALS were informed they were going in to kill Osama, there was a loud roar and lots of cheering. And apparently Leon Paneta watched the whole thing go down on a surveillance cam real time. Damn!

GMScud · 05-02-2011, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

I guess all kinds of info is being released now.

So I just heard that as soon as the SEALS were informed they were going in to kill Osama, there was a loud roar and lots of cheering. And apparently Leon Paneta watched the whole thing go down on a surveillance cam real time. Damn!

Is there anything on earth more badass than our SEALS? I heard Obama and Panetta watching the whole thing from the White House sit room.

GMScud · 05-02-2011, 02:44 PM

I love that this was a kill op from the jump.

U.S. team's mission was to kill bin Laden, not capture | Reuters

Ruhskins · 05-02-2011, 02:04 PM

White House briefing going on right now (2:03 pm ET)

msnbc.com Video Player

MTK · 05-02-2011, 02:44 PM

A real life kill cam, sweet

I heard the pics are very graphic since he got shot in the head. We might never see them.

Ruhskins · 05-02-2011, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

A real life kill cam, sweet

I heard the pics are very graphic since he got shot in the head. We might never see them.

Call of Duty: Black Ops - Abbottabad Expansion Pack

MTK · 05-02-2011, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Call of Duty: Black Ops - Abbottabad Expansion Pack

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mlmpetert Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Richmond Posts: 3,261	re: Bin Laden Killed These guys sound completely badass: The members of Team 6 are all “black” operatives. They exist outside military protocol, engage in operations that are at the highest level of classification and often outside the boundaries of international law. To maintain plausible deniability in case they are caught, records of black operations are rarely, if ever, kept. The development of SEAL Team 6 was in direct response to the 1980 attempt to rescue the American hostages held in Iran. The mission was a terrific failure that fell apart at many points and illustrated the need for a dedicated counter-terrorist team capable of operating with the utmost secrecy. Johnson explains the name is allegedly an intentional lie that dates back to the time of the Cold War. At the time, there were only two other SEAL teams and the name was meant to confuse the Soviets. DevGru belongs to the Joint Special Operations Command, an extraordinary and unusual collection of classified standing task forces and special-missions units. They report to the president and operate worldwide based on the legal (or extra-legal) premises of classified presidential directives. Though the general public knows about the special SEALs and their brothers in Delta Force, most JSOC missions never leak. We only hear about JSOC when something goes bad (a British aid worker is accidentally killed) or when something really big happens (a merchant marine captain is rescued at sea), and even then, the military remains especially sensitive about their existence. Several dozen JSOC operatives have died in Pakistan over the past several years. Their names are released by the Defense Department in the usual manner, but with a cover story — generally, they were killed in training accidents in eastern Afghanistan. That’s the code. The highly trained operatives who killed Osama bin Laden are part of a counterterrorism group so specialized that no one can apply to join it. Instead, they are recruited. They are chosen from existing SEAL teams, making the unit an elite within an elite. That may be only partly true, though. National Journal says members in general can be recruited from a variety of places including the CIA. Again, all the information comes with the “alleged” tag since the team’s work is so secretive and none of its details can ever be confirmed. So What Exactly is the Navy‘s Secret ’SEAL Team 6?’ \| The Blaze __________________ www.NRABannedGunsRaffle.org

05-02-2011, 12:41 PM	#3
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 63 Posts: 10,401	re: Bin Laden Killed Clearly, the guys who did this are so f'ing good at what they do it is beyond amazing. I can imagine the following scene in the Oval Office: Obama: Okay, I have the confirmed intelligence. Team 6 is authorized to carry out the mission - kill Bin Laden and retrieve the body. Unknown Commander (Standing with Obama - and after speaking into a small mic in his lapel): Yes sir. Bin Laden is dead sir. Obama: Good when will the operation take place? U.C.: It just did, sir. Bin Laden is now dead. What do you want us to with the body. Obama: Wait, when did you kill him? U.C.: Just now sir, after you gave the order. Obama: Ummm, okay. Good job! It is unfortunate for that the men who carried out this mission can't be given the parade they deserve. I am sure, given the type of people it takes to carry out this mission, that they probably feel the mission's success was its own reward and that they are getting plenty of accolades within their community (like I tell my son: do the right thing work hard, and the right people will know your worth). At the same time, it would be both cathartic and unifying for the nation to be able to shower them with cheers. __________________ Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.

05-02-2011, 01:42 PM	#9
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	re: Bin Laden Killed I guess all kinds of info is being released now. So I just heard that as soon as the SEALS were informed they were going in to kill Osama, there was a loud roar and lots of cheering. And apparently Leon Paneta watched the whole thing go down on a surveillance cam real time. Damn!

05-02-2011, 02:44 PM	#11
GMScud Swearinger Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 12,626	re: Bin Laden Killed I love that this was a kill op from the jump. U.S. team's mission was to kill bin Laden, not capture \| Reuters __________________ Tardy

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MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,044	re: Bin Laden Killed A real life kill cam, sweet I heard the pics are very graphic since he got shot in the head. We might never see them. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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