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Old 01-05-2012, 09:27 PM   #1
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I don't think that's quite what I said. Regardless, with no Landry Jones the Rams asking price will be insane for either #2 or Bradford. I think they stay at 2 and take Blackmon
Maybe the Skins just go ahead and take Tannehill at #6 now?
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Which coach do we root for to get the Rams job in hopes of trading for Bradford
I am hoping they promote Josh McDaniels.
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I am hoping they promote Josh McDaniels.
He might trade with denver for tebow, so be careful what you hope for.
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I am hoping they promote Josh McDaniels.
wouldn't surprise me to see him back in NE
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With Jones out, it won't matter. Price will be too high
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skinzwin, if cleveland has a shot at RG3, they are selecting him, we have to trade with minnesota or st louis to get him. No way cleveland doesnt want him. I think we might have a 2 or 3% chance of getting him, which is very low..........I say we end up with either Bradford, Foles or Tannehill next year. Those are the three I am expecting to throw the ball for us next season, and I give the edge to Tannehill.
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skinzwin, if cleveland has a shot at RG3, they are selecting him, we have to trade with minnesota or st louis to get him. No way cleveland doesnt want him. I think we might have a 2 or 3% chance of getting him, which is very low..........I say we end up with either Bradford, Foles or Tannehill next year. Those are the three I am expecting to throw the ball for us next season, and I give the edge to Tannehill.
Most mock drafts have the Browns taking Trent Richardson the explosive running back from Alabama. The Cleveland front office hasn't given up on Colt McCoy. They mentioned bringing in competition in the offseason for the QB position. It doesn't mean that they will draft Robert Griffin. Based on other teams needs, there's a good chance that Griffin will be available when the Redskins pick at #6.

Even if the Redskins wanted to trade up, Minnesota would be better suited to partner with than the Rams.
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Most mock drafts have the Browns taking Trent Richardson the explosive running back from Alabama. The Cleveland front office hasn't given up on Colt McCoy. They mentioned bringing in competition in the offseason for the QB position. It doesn't mean that they will draft Robert Griffin. Based on other teams needs, there's a good chance that Griffin will be available when the Redskins pick at #6.

Even if the Redskins wanted to trade up, Minnesota would be better suited to partner with than the Rams.
Cleveland could trade up for Luck too leaving Griffin at 6. I'm not so sure they would go QB either though.
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Most mock drafts have the Browns taking Trent Richardson the explosive running back from Alabama. The Cleveland front office hasn't given up on Colt McCoy. They mentioned bringing in competition in the offseason for the QB position. It doesn't mean that they will draft Robert Griffin. Based on other teams needs, there's a good chance that Griffin will be available when the Redskins pick at #6.

Even if the Redskins wanted to trade up, Minnesota would be better suited to partner with than the Rams.
Funny how there are two sides to every story. lol. I could have sworn there was an article about the Browns owner being "infatuated" with RGIII way back in Oct. or Nov. I can't find it. Leading up to the end of the season there has been much speculation as to whats going to happen to McCoy. You get on concussion and it makes it easier for you to get a second and after it keeps getting easier with every new concussion. So I can see where the Brown would want to explore possibly taking a QB in this years draft:
Shurmur won’t say if McCoy, Hillis have a future in Cleveland | ProFootballTalk

Then there is Holmgren mentioning there will be QB competition next year:
Holmgren: McCoy will face quarterback competition | ProFootballTalk

Then there is this little ditty:
Shurmur on RG3: “Good players fit in every offense” | ProFootballTalk

Shurmur being the HC might get into trouble for the comment above:
Shurmur possibly will be hearing from the league over Griffin remarks | ProFootballTalk

Whats my point.... don't rule the Browns out of wanting a QB. Too many people here seem to think that because the Browns drafted McCoy last year they won't take another QB, or that because the team needs a RB they won't take a QB. I'm telling you.... "IF" RGIII does not get taken by the Colts, there are still possibilities that the other 4 teams ahead of the Skins might take a QB. Rumor is the Rams might take him and trade Bradford or keep both because of Bradfords contract. Another rumor is the Vikes might be interested and they could draft RGIII and trade or cut Ponder.
As I pointed out the Browns are salivating at the thought of drafting RGIII so it's almost no way he'd make it past them. and lastly the Bucks. We don't know who their HC is going to be and or who that HC might want as his QB when he gets there.

Personally moving up will cost too much especially with now a limited supply of top ranked QB's waiting to be drafted. Before we had Luck, RGIII, Landry, Barkley. Two are staying in college and if we have to move up you don't think those teams ahead of us aren't thinking ...how bad does someone want RGIII?

I foresee us either taking a top WR as a weapon, especially if we get a FA QB then drafting another QB in the second round, or we move back for more picks and still do what I said.
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Funny how there are two sides to every story. lol. I could have sworn there was an article about the Browns owner being "infatuated" with RGIII way back in Oct. or Nov. I can't find it. Leading up to the end of the season there has been much speculation as to whats going to happen to McCoy. You get on concussion and it makes it easier for you to get a second and after it keeps getting easier with every new concussion. So I can see where the Brown would want to explore possibly taking a QB in this years draft:
Shurmur won’t say if McCoy, Hillis have a future in Cleveland | ProFootballTalk

Then there is Holmgren mentioning there will be QB competition next year:
Holmgren: McCoy will face quarterback competition | ProFootballTalk

Then there is this little ditty:
Shurmur on RG3: “Good players fit in every offense” | ProFootballTalk

Shurmur being the HC might get into trouble for the comment above:
Shurmur possibly will be hearing from the league over Griffin remarks | ProFootballTalk

Whats my point.... don't rule the Browns out of wanting a QB. Too many people here seem to think that because the Browns drafted McCoy last year they won't take another QB, or that because the team needs a RB they won't take a QB. I'm telling you.... "IF" RGIII does not get taken by the Colts, there are still possibilities that the other 4 teams ahead of the Skins might take a QB. Rumor is the Rams might take him and trade Bradford or keep both because of Bradfords contract. Another rumor is the Vikes might be interested and they could draft RGIII and trade or cut Ponder.
As I pointed out the Browns are salivating at the thought of drafting RGIII so it's almost no way he'd make it past them. and lastly the Bucks. We don't know who their HC is going to be and or who that HC might want as his QB when he gets there.

Personally moving up will cost too much especially with now a limited supply of top ranked QB's waiting to be drafted. Before we had Luck, RGIII, Landry, Barkley. Two are staying in college and if we have to move up you don't think those teams ahead of us aren't thinking ...how bad does someone want RGIII?

I foresee us either taking a top WR as a weapon, especially if we get a FA QB then drafting another QB in the second round, or we move back for more picks and still do what I said.
Unless I'm reading it wrong are you saying that you'd be surprised if the Colts don't take RGIII?
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Unless I'm reading it wrong are you saying that you'd be surprised if the Colts don't take RGIII?
I honestly think they will take Luck but... there is some grumbling about RGIII's stock having gone up and teams are starting to view him as good or better then Luck. I'm not saying I think he is or isn't, I'm saying what some rumors are out there.

So what I mean is there is a possibility even the Colts might find RGIII worth looking at and if they don't take him (which most of us figure they won't) there are other teams starting to get interested in him that are in front of us. My point being I don't see a snow balls chance in you know what that we get him. Unless we throw a ton of picks at whoever is in front of the Browns and I really don't think that will happen. Comes down to supply and demand and with only two top QB left on the market demand will be higher. Miami might even weigh in on trying to move up.

My preference would be for the team to take whatever is the next best QB on the list at #6 because they might not be there in the second round, but I'd also be ok with the team taking a viable #1 WR at #6 and get the QB in the 2nd round to develope. But I'd like to see them get a good Vet QB in FA if they are going to do that cause most likely the Rookie QB might not be ready to start.
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Whats my point.... don't rule the Browns out of wanting a QB. Too many people here seem to think that because the Browns drafted McCoy last year they won't take another QB, or that because the team needs a RB they won't take a QB. I'm telling you.... "IF" RGIII does not get taken by the Colts, there are still possibilities that the other 4 teams ahead of the Skins might take a QB. Rumor is the Rams might take him and trade Bradford or keep both because of Bradfords contract. Another rumor is the Vikes might be interested and they could draft RGIII and trade or cut Ponder.
As I pointed out the Browns are salivating at the thought of drafting RGIII so it's almost no way he'd make it past them. and lastly the Bucks. We don't know who their HC is going to be and or who that HC might want as his QB when he gets there.

Personally moving up will cost too much especially with now a limited supply of top ranked QB's waiting to be drafted. Before we had Luck, RGIII, Landry, Barkley. Two are staying in college and if we have to move up you don't think those teams ahead of us aren't thinking ...how bad does someone want RGIII?

I foresee us either taking a top WR as a weapon, especially if we get a FA QB then drafting another QB in the second round, or we move back for more picks and still do what I said.
I see no logic in St. Louis drafting Robert Griffin III and keeping Sam Bradford.
While it's possible Minnesota could draft Griffin III, I doubt it happens.
The Browns are definitely a possibility, as I don't think they are completely sold on Colt McCoy.

I don't think it will cost too much for the Redskins to move up to #2. It is going to be a hefty ransom, but this is probably the only time I fully support the Redskins going all in to grab what many feel will be a franchise QB from day one. Either one, Luck or RG III, I'm fine with the Redskins doing what they need to do to land them. Other QBs in the draft - I don't see the Redskins drafting any of them at #6, which tells me that they are not guys that probably can be thrown into the fire and succeed from day one. So, in that case, the Redskins would have to give a hefty payday to a free agent QB, because Mike Shanahan will have pressure on him to land a franchise QB this offseason. This doesn't seem applicable to me in my opinion. Bruce Allen is not going to give up a huge payday to a free agent that may or may not live up to that potential. It would probably be more cost efficient for the Redskins to move up in the draft than it would to land one of the free agents. I do see the Redskins picking up a young guy in free agency (Jimmy Clausen) to be a backup and a development QB, but if they want a day one franchise starter, I just think it's RG III or Luck or it's bust.

And trust me, I have been going back and forth with this for weeks, but the more I think about it, and the closer we get to the draft, the more I'm starting to see it being more of a possibility that the Redskins do move up for a QB. I might change my opinions (yet again) after the combine though. :/
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Brock Osweiler to enter NFL Draft - CBSSports.com

Now wait a second. Brock osweiler declared for the draft, IMO he's better than Landry Jones. He's 6'8 too.
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skinzwin, if cleveland has a shot at RG3, they are selecting him, we have to trade with minnesota or st louis to get him. No way cleveland doesnt want him. I think we might have a 2 or 3% chance of getting him, which is very low..........I say we end up with either Bradford, Foles or Tannehill next year. Those are the three I am expecting to throw the ball for us next season, and I give the edge to Tannehill.


I know it's not the most likely outcome, but if Holmgren decides to stick with Colt, they really really need a RB and Trent Richardson is a beast. Maybe my desire for a top tier QB factored into this mock? Call it wishful mocking.
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The cost is high to move up, I still say that we should do it. RGIII is a rare talent who can change the dynamic of an offense.
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