2013 Free Agents

[Sonny9TD]

I'll take Was Welker to move the chains and help that defense stay off the field. Then I would tunnel vision on the defense. Secondary especially and maybe a linebacker for depth with London fletcher tutelage or to start. 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round picks would be nothing but CB and safety. I might even trade down if there is talented depth there and maybe get a 3rd down rush specialist. If we can find 3 gems in the secondary and Wes Welker. Lookout playoffs.

[los panda]

forgot about jammal brown, any cap space created next year by cutting him?

[Sonny9TD]

Originally Posted by los panda

forgot about jammal brown, any cap space created next year by cutting him?

Not a bad idea.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by los panda

forgot about jammal brown, any cap space created next year by cutting him?

He had about $4.533mil in guaranteed money left coming into 2012. We're paying it all this season so we're not on the hook for any money after 2012 and we can then cut him without a cap hit.

2012 = $4.553mil against cap, still counts $1.1mil in cap space this year if we cut him in 2012, but the remaining $3.4mil would count against us in 2013.

Basically, we're keeping him and paying him this season to minimize the cap hit in the 2013 season that's missing another $18mil from Mara/Goodell.

If we released him now, it would mean we have less to spend next offseason, so we're getting it out of the way now with a slim chance he could get on the field in 2012.

No matter what we do with him, we still have to pay him the remaining $4.553 in guaranteed money...so we're doing it now and just getting this bad contract over with. The right decision. We need as much cap space as we can find next year, so cutting him now would hurt us a lot more than waiting in that plan.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

He had about $4.533mil in guaranteed money left coming into 2012. We're paying it all this season so we're not on the hook for any money after 2012 and we can then cut him without a cap hit.

2012 = $4.553mil against cap, still counts $1.1mil in cap space this year if we cut him in 2012, but the remaining $3.4mil would count against us in 2013.

Basically, we're keeping him and paying him this season to minimize the cap hit in the 2013 season that's missing another $18mil from Mara/Goodell.

If we released him now, it would mean we have less to spend next offseason, so we're getting it out of the way now with a slim chance he could get on the field in 2012.

No matter what we do with him, we still have to pay him the remaining $4.553 in guaranteed money...so we're doing it now and just getting this bad contract over with. The right decision. We need as much cap space as we can find next year, so cutting him now would hurt us a lot more than waiting in that plan.

i love it.

hall and brown create $12M if cut next year? or what's brown's cap figure next year? would that number be higher than $12M?

[CultBrennan59]

Ryan Clady playing at a high level, with a medium-sized contract | ProFootballTalk

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Ryan Clady playing at a high level, with a medium-sized contract | ProFootballTalk

As much as I would like it, there is no way we could afford to have 2 high priced tackles. Just simply no way around it and not suffer in other areas of need. Also, no way they'll let him go with Manning there.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

As much as I would like it, there is no way we could afford to have 2 high priced tackles. Just simply no way around it and not suffer in other areas of need. Also, no way they'll let him go with Manning there.

Yeah, I mentioned him as a FA, but Money and Manning (and 0 sacks allowed so far) means he's not going anywhere, which is why I posted this.

[Alvin Walton]

This is interesting.....

Cliff Avril unsure where he will be playing next year

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

This is interesting.....

Cliff Avril unsure where he will be playing next year

He's a good DE/OLB that can get to the QB

[Evilgrin]

What skins cap space right now for offseason?

[skinsfaninok]

I have a feeling we will go to a 4-3 next yr

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I have a feeling we will go to a 4-3 next yr

the type of defense we have isn't the problem its the coaching and personnel thats the problem

EDIT

And by personnel I mean depth and secondary which 4-3 3-4 won't matter the secondary is always 4 starters and our 4 starters suck

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I have a feeling we will go to a 4-3 next yr

Yes please!

[VTSkins1961]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I have a feeling we will go to a 4-3 next yr

I hope so. We should have never gone to a 3-4 to begin with