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Old 01-22-2013, 12:18 PM   #1
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Re: Russel Wilson or Bob

Give RGIII SF's offensive line, perhaps the best in football, and he could do more, especially against a swiss cheese defense like the Packers put on the field that game.

I still maintain that RGIII is a more accurate passer and when he decides to take off, when healthy, he's a more dangerous runner too. Think about early in the season, 76 yards at half speed, high-stepping and looking back at the helpless defenders. He has a deep ball that could be the most accurate in the game.

Colin K has a ton of talent, but he still looks a little raw at times. I've seen him make some bad throws. He does have more talent around him too. This is a team that went 13-3 with Alex Smith last year.

They're both going to be tops in the league for years, but at this point, I still give the edge to Griffin going by individual (not team) accomplishments.
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Old 01-23-2013, 12:11 PM   #2
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Re: Russel Wilson or Bob

Obviously all 3 are good QBs, good leaders, good runners.

They're all very close in arm talent to my eye:

By arm I mean the combination of quickness of release, velocity, touch (deep ball) and accuracy.
In terms of pure velocity I would put Kaepernick is 1st. In terms of pure accuracy I would put Wilson is 1st Griff is very close because he can make some perfect passes but his ball location is inconsistent (often 'wild high'). Quick release I would put Griffin 1st. Touch(deep ball) tie between Griff & Russ.

Running ability: Griff is the most dynamic, he's a threat to score on any carry. Kaep isn't far behind though. Russell isn't as fast but he's more then useful enough to make the read-option plays work. Griffin is by far the most reckless. Kaep and Russ imo have far better running instincts and awareness about when, where and how to uneccesary hits.

Progression reading in a rhythm passing offense 3-5-7 step drop passing:
Russell Wilson is head and shoulders the best imo. Griff & Kaep operate schemes that far more run-action based and often result in simple half field/hi-lo reads.
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:01 AM   #3
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Obviously all 3 are good QBs, good leaders, good runners.

They're all very close in arm talent to my eye:

By arm I mean the combination of quickness of release, velocity, touch (deep ball) and accuracy.
In terms of pure velocity I would put Kaepernick is 1st. In terms of pure accuracy I would put Wilson is 1st Griff is very close because he can make some perfect passes but his ball location is inconsistent (often 'wild high'). Quick release I would put Griffin 1st. Touch(deep ball) tie between Griff & Russ.

Running ability: Griff is the most dynamic, he's a threat to score on any carry. Kaep isn't far behind though. Russell isn't as fast but he's more then useful enough to make the read-option plays work. Griffin is by far the most reckless. Kaep and Russ imo have far better running instincts and awareness about when, where and how to uneccesary hits.

Progression reading in a rhythm passing offense 3-5-7 step drop passing:
Russell Wilson is head and shoulders the best imo. Griff & Kaep operate schemes that far more run-action based and often result in simple half field/hi-lo reads.
I would agree with all this. Welcome back 30gut


Also would like to say I love when all the idoit talking heads miss bad on projections. Russell Wilson made a tonnnnnnn of people look bad this year.
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:12 AM   #4
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I would agree with all this. Welcome back 30gut


Also would like to say I love when all the idoit talking heads miss bad on projections. Russell Wilson made a tonnnnnnn of people look bad this year.
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wasn't it kiper that said previous to the draft that wilson had no business even being IN the NFL???????
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Old 01-23-2013, 12:33 PM   #6
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Re: Russel Wilson or Bob

rg3 > than both.

capernick didnt even play the whole season lol... the team around him weather it be the line or the d or whatever is better than ours... they were an NFC championship team last year too... i dont see how he has improved them that much... besides, cap and wilson had our offense that we installed, put in for them.
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Old 01-23-2013, 06:23 PM   #7
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I'm talking about the actual QB not their teams or their stats
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leaving the D out then.... how much can we actually tell about a qb if we dont take into account the weapons they have and the o line they have?
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something along the lines that he wouldn't be successfull at QB in the nfl or somethin
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Kiper also said Jimmy Clausen was a sure lock franchise qb.....
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Old 01-29-2013, 09:24 PM   #11
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Definitely RG3. If you keep Wilson in the pocket, he becomes very average.
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Old 09-25-2013, 01:36 PM   #12
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Re: Russel Wilson or Bob

Russell Wilson has the highest qb rating since week 9 of last yr,higher than Peyton Manning,just something to think about

This was posted in another thread. RW is starting to look pretty good especially if we had gotten to keep our 3 first round.

IDK 3 first round picks and RW vs. just RGIII. Looks like SEA has won so far.
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Russell Wilson has the highest qb rating since week 9 of last yr,higher than Peyton Manning,just something to think about

This was posted in another thread. RW is starting to look pretty good especially if we had gotten to keep our 3 first round.

IDK 3 first round picks and RW vs. just RGIII. Looks like SEA has won so far.
They've won only because RW has not had a major knee injury. If RG3 was sucking it up without the injury, then yes they would've "won".
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if griff played with that D he would be just as great.
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if griff played with that D he would be just as great.
Remember when you answer would you rather RG or RW AND 3 first round picks.

Disclaimer: Assuming we have to use our 2012 3rd round pick on RW that mean no Josh LeRibeus on this team; devastating.
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