Redskins Vs Chargers Postgame

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I think Garcon brings it every week, but the passing game in general isnt. Kyle, RG3, lack of other receivers and the biggest issue, Oline, have had problems. I think Garcon is that reciever who could be 100 yards receiving per game.

And no way would I franchise Hall, too likely to fall back into old habits. I want him back, but not at that price tag. Dont know if i give crazy money to Talib though and I think that's where we are heading...

I'm probably not giving Bruce Allen enough credit to get Hall extended at a reasonable contract value, but I can't think of a compelling reason to offer a multi-year contract. Someone else is going to, however.

Garcon has brought it a total of twice this year. We've relied on him to be a no. 1 guy every time we take the field. The difference in how our offense performs when Garcon is winning his matchup vs how it performs when he isn't is staggering.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Garcon is now a guy who brings it every week? Maybe he just showed up at the wrong place last week.

He was the most dependable receiving target in this game (Saved RG3's bacon twice), and I think that's why he deserves a game ball for that performance, but I think he needs to play like this more often (obviously not 7/172, but 5/80 pretty much every week). When you are the highest paid player on the team, I don't think that's too much to ask.

Prior to the SD game he was averaging 6.7 catches per game and 73 yds per game. So he's kind of right there already.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Prior to the SD game he was averaging 6.7 catches per game and 73 yds per game. So he's kind of right there already.

Which means he's averaging 10.9 yards per catch. Which is a problem.

How much of a problem is debatable. Some would call that small potatoes. But if RG3 was doing anywhere near as well as he was doing at this time last year (when Garcon was inactive), there wouldn't be anything to debate.

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Can we never be satisfied with players who perform?

This is The Warpath, hear us whine!

Dude, it's not your first week, how surprised can you really be? This forum has members with the intestinal fortitude of a Rotavirus sufferer who recently had a spicy curry and now can't stop sneezing.

At least we're off Suicide Watch this week.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

This is The Warpath, hear us whine!

Dude, it's not your first week, how surprised can you really be? This forum has members with the intestinal fortitude of a Rotavirus sufferer who recently had a spicy curry and now can't stop sneezing.

At least we're off Suicide Watch this week.

Wait til we start pooping a Buick.

[GTripp0012]

Hankerson was really good in this game. He got open on the 3rd & 4 at the end of this game too.

The Chargers defense is brutal though.

[The Goat]

It sucks that Morgan didn't work out and Moss aged so quickly, or at least worked his way out of the good graces of the offense so quickly. Going into this season I thought we had a nice well rounded WR corp, but it looks limited and weak now. Garcon and Hank are keepers for sure. The rest haven't produced enough to justify anything.

I think it's a major concern, because we're so short on high draft picks and Mike has struggled to find talent in the mid to lower rounds outside RB and Riley at LB. Our oline drafting has been abysmal especially, and that group needs major reinforcements.

IMO the mismanagement of the roster/draft in his first two years is coming around to haunt us now more than ever, but I doubt most see it that way.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by The Goat

IMO the mismanagement of the roster/draft in his first two years is coming around to haunt us now more than ever, but I doubt most see it that way.

Pretty much.

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by The Goat

It sucks that Morgan didn't work out and Moss aged so quickly, or at least worked his way out of the good graces of the offense so quickly. Going into this season I thought we had a nice well rounded WR corp, but it looks limited and weak now. Garcon and Hank are keepers for sure. The rest haven't produced enough to justify anything.

I think it's a major concern, because we're so short on high draft picks and Mike has struggled to find talent in the mid to lower rounds outside RB and Riley at LB. Our oline drafting has been abysmal especially, and that group needs major reinforcements.

IMO the mismanagement of the roster/draft in his first two years is coming around to haunt us now more than ever, but I doubt most see it that way.

Not sure how you can say that about his first draft. There was no 3 and 5. 1 was Trent, 4 was Perry Riley. And he turned the screwed up 2nd that was traded for McNabb into the pick that was used for Alfred Morris (McNabb was absolutely a mistake though).

His second draft kind of sucks. It got us Kerrigan, and for as much as you love Helu, he came in that draft in the 4th. Jenkins (2) and Hankerson (3) are under performing for their draft positions imo. Not sure how much more they will progress. Several others from that draft are still on the team, but dont do much. I expect all but Paul to not be here next year. Not exactly sure what you were expecting with all the 6th and 7th's though. Those dont usually get you much.

LeRibeus last year, imo, was his biggest mistake. Still cant figure that one out. Didnt like it then and dont like it now. He could of been had in the 5th, maybe later.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Skinzman

Not sure how you can say that about his first draft. There was no 3 and 5. 1 was Trent, 4 was Perry Riley. And he turned the screwed up 2nd that was traded for McNabb into the pick that was used for Alfred Morris (McNabb was absolutely a mistake though).

His second draft kind of sucks. It got us Kerrigan, and for as much as you love Helu, he came in that draft in the 4th. Jenkins (2) and Hankerson (3) are under performing for their draft positions imo. Not sure how much more they will progress. Several others from that draft are still on the team, but dont do much. I expect all but Paul to not be here next year. Not exactly sure what you were expecting with all the 6th and 7th's though. Those dont usually get you much.

LeRibeus last year, imo, was his biggest mistake. Still cant figure that one out. Didnt like it then and dont like it now. He could of been had in the 5th, maybe later.

Agree on first draft, as long as you don't factor possible trades. Mike did great as a GM that year. Not so much as a coach. You mentioned Mcnabb already. But he also forced a 4-3 defensive roster into a 3-4 overnight, when the defense was better best unit on the team and not enough ammo to make it happen. We went from an above avg D (factoring out Zorns last few games) to worst in the league in one year. That takes a lot of scheming lol!!! It never looked like Haynesworth was part of Mikes plan. Ok. Not my intuition but ok. So you negotiate a trade for the draft. After all were talking about defensive MVP from two years ago. You have Andre carter and orakpo as deadly DE's in a 4-3. Carter went to NE and played lights out till basically a career ending injury, but that can happen to anyone and AC was solid through his career otherwise. Orakpo is still out of position IMO. Same could be said of Kerrigan.

Mike was actually very good add maximizing his players value for trade purposes certain times in the past. I don't think he's had any success with it here even when opportunities were there.

[Bucket]

I think Bowen has been hampered the past two games with that torn ligament in his knee. Which is why he hasn't had the pass rush we are used to him posting.

[skinsfaninok]

The combo of Garcon and Reed will only get better and better. Reed is already the new media darling for TE, almost every "expert" has him as our next superstar offensive player outside of griff

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

The combo of Garcon and Reed will only get better and better. Reed is already the new media darling for TE, almost every "expert" has him as our next superstar offensive player outside of griff

Whats awesome about Reed is he could be in the running for RoY if he keeps up the pace he's at.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

The combo of Garcon and Reed will only get better and better. Reed is already the new media darling for TE, almost every "expert" has him as our next superstar offensive player outside of griff

.....and Almo.

[Bucket]

mattwaldmanrsp.com/2013/11/04/robert-griffin-part-ii-reasons-for-hope-and-watching-grass-grow/

Good read for those who don't understand the offense and complain about RG3 staring down WRs