McCoy to Start Against Indy

[Hijinx]

Some of the things Gruden has been saying has been brutal. I am all for honesty, but maybe this is too much honesty. Also all the media stories make it out to be like RG3 has been kicked out of the NFL or he died.

[Dirtbag59]

As my Dad likes to say, 'no good can come of this.' I just don't know what to say. I don't think I have felt this low about the future of the team since 2009.

[Bangee7]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

As my Dad likes to say, 'no good can come of this.' I just don't know what to say. I don't think I have felt this low about the future of the team since 2009.

I get some of what you're saying (really want the investment to pay off, rare talent, etc.), but seriously, do you feel lower heading into this weekend than you did just after the Tampa game?


It doesn't get much lower for me than that game.

[Zerohero]

what sucks is now we have no trade value for Kirk or RG3 now.

[Gary84Clark]

Originally Posted by Zerohero

what sucks is now we have no trade value for Kirk or RG3 now.

or Colt


Gruden is bluffing, I am closing my eyes tight. This is gonna hurt. This decision will define him. He blaming it all on RG3, Colts have no defense so we should be able t shoot it out with them.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

or Colt


Gruden is bluffing, I am closing my eyes tight. This is gonna hurt. This decision will define him. He blaming it all on RG3, Colts have no defense so we should be able t shoot it out with them.

You gotta let go of the RGIII crush man.

[KI Skins Fan]

There are a lot of good posts on the last few pages of this thread.

I seriously doubt that the Skins will attempt to trade Kirk. He is a fit for this offense and a number of quality NFL QB's threw a lot of int's early in their careers. He can be developed.

I think the Skins may find that the return on a trade of RGIII for draft picks will be shockingly low. I'd like to be wrong on this point.

I think Colt's play will be satisfactory. The Skins will probably re-sign him. I feel that Colt is a better player than he was in Cleveland.

I don't think that Jay Gruden is playing mind games with higher management over RGIII. He has tried to make it work with RGIII but now he needs to gain the trust of his other players by trying to win some games with Colt. His players need to enjoy some success and hear a lot less public criticism.

[punch it in]

Im over the feeling sad thing that the RG-3 trade looks like it might have backfired. Dude did give us a division crown and atleast when people talk shit about us I can point to that.
More importantly though, I maintain the belief that with a serviceable QB (whether it be someone on the roster rite now or not), coupled with solid cap money and a full compliment of draft picks that based on what I have seen (texans, birds, vikings, niners - all winnable games), that this team will compete in a big way going forward.


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[punch it in]

He will be a monster if he learns to do all the things he is struggling terribly with. I dont care what kind of offense you run - you have to be able to see the damn field and get rid of the ball.


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[MTK]

Far too early to close the book on him.

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Far too early to close the book on him.

No doubt....a lot can happen between now and next September.

[Bucket]

I'm excited about the future of this franchise. Gruden seems to be on the right track of playing his players and not taking shit from Snyder. I understand people want to play RG3 to see what he can do, but the other 52 guys in the locker room work just as hard as he does and the deserve to win now.

[mbedner3420]

Originally Posted by Bucket

I'm excited about the future of this franchise. Gruden seems to be on the right track of playing his players and not taking shit from Snyder. I understand people want to play RG3 to see what he can do, but the other 52 guys in the locker room work just as hard as he does and the deserve to win now.

Now if only we had a front office, decent scouts, a qb coach, a new DB coach, and D coordinator...

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by Bucket

I'm excited about the future of this franchise. Gruden seems to be on the right track of playing his players and not taking shit from Snyder. I understand people want to play RG3 to see what he can do, but the other 52 guys in the locker room work just as hard as he does and the deserve to win now.

He will probably get fired for it.

[SFREDSKIN]

RGIII has had 4 1/2 regular season games with Gruden, in my opinion that's not enough time. Yeah, he's raw, has regressed, etc. I say bring him back next year for a due or die and let's see what happens. If RGIII wants to succeed he must immerse himself on learning how to play in thr pocket, hire someone to help him out.