Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Talent certainly matters. So does scheme and coaching, and no doubt the organization is looking to improve all of the above.

The best way to measure a defensive coordinator's impact is look how he did in his first year, and look how that same defense did in the year before his arrival. That's why Wade is so impressive, he has frequently taken a moribund defense into the top 10 in his first season.

Bradley has improved the defenses he has coached, both the Seahawks and Jags got quite a bit better, but it took longer and some talent. Wade's impact has been more immediate.

Same with Manusky. Wilks we can't judge, never been a coordinator. Norman developed, and he certainly knows what good defenses look like, but can he call one? Can he gameplan? Can he flex his scheme to fit his talent? Maybe but we don't know. He's a risk.

Wade is the best candidate, it's not close.

I agree. I was pissed when we didn't hire Wade and instead hired a guy from the Lions who had the worst losing streak in NFL history....Why? Because of energy? We'll look what happened. Denver wins a Superbowl due primarily to their defense and our offense catches fire but due to our defense we stagnate around 500. Who knows...If we had Wade could we have won one more game both years? I say YES. And that means we blew 2 chances for an actual Super Bowl run....Because we wanted our head coach to have a high energy peer with a crappy resume rather than an old dude with an impressive track record. I say....Get Wade...Stock up on defense and make a superbowl run over the next 3 years!

[sdskinsfan2001]

I'd gladly take Phillips too. But he is getting up there in age. He would be my 3rd choice. But my top 3 are all really close. It's more like a 1a, 1b, and 1c.

Bradley, Wilks, and Phillips, I'd feel good about all 3 of them.

[mredskins]

Williams off the board

[OmahaRedskins]

Williams was never a legitimate option. He left here in bad terms and his last 8 or 9 years have not lived up to the talent.

[ethat001]

Agree that Wade is the best choice by far, but then again - we didn't hire him last time, so either he didn't like us or we didn't like him. We'll see how failure changes things. Gus would seem to be a good second choice, but as mentioned the Seattle defenses may have been good simply due to GM / drafting than his talent. Still, couldn't hurt.

I'm curious on Wilks. Only found one good article on him, where he was highly recommended. If he's legit, wouldn't mind a fresh mind with some passion to develop the team.. He's dealt with change in the Carolina secondary and developed players each year, including this year with two rookies..

Of those associated with us, would HATE Manusky, his resume stinks.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by ethat001

Agree that Wade is the best choice by far, but then again - we didn't hire him last time, so either he didn't like us or we didn't like him. We'll see how failure changes things. Gus would seem to be a good second choice, but as mentioned the Seattle defenses may have been good simply due to GM / drafting than his talent. Still, couldn't hurt.

I'm curious on Wilks. Only found one good article on him, where he was highly recommended. If he's legit, wouldn't mind a fresh mind with some passion to develop the team.. He's dealt with change in the Carolina secondary and developed players each year, including this year with two rookies..

Of those associated with us, would HATE Manusky, his resume stinks.

The one thing that stands out for me is everybody was talking about how bad Carolina's rookie corners were to start the season, but by the end of the season they were doing much better. Plus he was a big reason Norman blew up too. From the looks of it he is a good teacher, which we could definitely use. I just don't know how well he would fare calling the entire defense.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Williams off the board

Good, because I don't want him. Only Joe Gibbs can coach us twice.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Good, because I don't want him. Only Joe Gibbs can coach us twice.

I like Gregg Williams, it sort of sucks that he goes to a shit hole like Cleveland...

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I like Gregg Williams, it sort of sucks that he goes to a shit hole like Cleveland...

On the other hand, with an infusion of talent, maybe Cleveland stands a chance now. I like HueJack and wish them luck, it's time for them to get out of the bottom of the barrel.

[SFREDSKIN]

One guy that hasn't been mentioned but I think would make a great DC, Mike Vrabel.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

One guy that hasn't been mentioned but I think would make a great DC, Mike Vrabel.

He's never coordinated a defense but that is an intriguing name. How could you not like that guy after Hard Knocks?

[Alvin Walton]

Rams to interview Mike Vrabel for head-coaching vacancy | ProFootballTalk

[Irrefutable]

Bradley is reportedly the early favorite for DC job in Washington. If they get him, I hope he brings Jonathan Cyprien their Safety. He had 128 tackles this season.

Jonathan Cyprien Contract Details, Salary Cap Charges, Bonus Money | Over The Cap

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Anyone know how he rated? I've seen safeties have a lot of tackles before because it means that people were gashing them in the run game.

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Anyone know how he rated? I've seen safeties have a lot of tackles before because it means that people were gashing them in the run game.

It is hard to say how good he is in pass coverage. I would like to see more PD and interceptions. At least we know he can tackle, probably a big improvement over who we have now.

Update, here is a list of PFF ratings He has the same rating as Eric Berry.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro...gency-tracker/