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Old 02-05-2022, 11:56 AM   #1
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Re: Black Monday 2022 thread

Depends on the context of the interview, but I generally agree. I mean, if you interview and get told you have every chance of getting the job, then find out they'd already offered it, I'd say it was a sham or at least bad faith; if they seriously thought you were a contender before the interview they'd have held back the other offer.

And this is the NFL not ACME manufacturing. They know there's a massive spotlight on HC positions, so it doesn't make sense to me to make an offer without telling later candidates that's the case, because you should know that it might get out and make you look unprofessional. Or worse.

In this case it's going to be a question of establishing the factual timeline (BB's text isn't proof of anything beyond word of mouth). I don't know whether offering Daboll and then interviewing Flores (if that is the true timeline) would constitute an illegal act, but at best it doesn't reflect well on the Giants. But whatever, I think he's going to have a hard time showing it was racism, if that is his claim against the Giants.
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The 49ers are about to receive 2 3rd rounders cause McDaniel was hired by the Dolphins (he’s biracial) that’s 4 3rd rounders for them (Saleh last year).

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/d...e-coordinator/
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The 49ers are about to receive 2 3rd rounders cause McDaniel was hired by the Dolphins (he’s biracial) that’s 4 3rd rounders for them (Saleh last year).

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/d...e-coordinator/
Shanny tree growing…O’Connell and McDaniel.

Flores probably cringing a bit. L
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...xt-head-coach/

You fire Culley who did a decent job and hire Lovie Smith? JFC…completely irrational management. They hired Lovie Smith over Flores?
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You fire Culley who did a decent job and hire Lovie Smith? JFC…completely irrational management. They hired Lovie Smith over Flores?
And people wonder why Watson wants out of Houston (besides getting away from the suits).

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Old 02-07-2022, 07:27 PM   #6
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You fire Culley who did a decent job and hire Lovie Smith? JFC…completely irrational management. They hired Lovie Smith over Flores?

Terrible terrible hire. Flores is such a good coach.
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Terrible terrible hire. Flores is such a good coach.
Seriously? Smith took the Bears to the Super Bowl?
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Old 02-09-2022, 09:40 AM   #8
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Giants hired Martindale as the DC , very happy with that. Bad part is he is bringing Rob Ryan with him...that long haired fat POS!
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Terrible terrible hire. Flores is such a good coach.
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Flores’ attorneys Douglas H. Wigdor and John Elefterakis released the following statement in response to Smith being hired over their client, according to CBS Sports:

Mr. Flores is happy to hear that the Texans have hired a Black head coach, Lovie Smith, as Mr. Flores’ goal in bringing his case is to provide real opportunities for Black and minority candidates to be considered for coaching and executive positions within the NFL. However, we would be remiss not to mention that Mr. Flores was one of three finalists for the Texans’ head coach position and, after a great interview and mutual interest, it is obvious that the only reason Mr. Flores was not selected was his decision to stand up against racial inequality across the NFL.

Do Flores’ attorneys really think this is a wise strategy to help their client? Do they really think attacking the Texans for hiring a different black coach is a wise idea?

It seems very stupid, especially when there’s no proof on the table other than their own perceptions of the situation.
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Flores’ attorneys Douglas H. Wigdor and John Elefterakis released the following statement in response to Smith being hired over their client, according to CBS Sports:

Mr. Flores is happy to hear that the Texans have hired a Black head coach, Lovie Smith, as Mr. Flores’ goal in bringing his case is to provide real opportunities for Black and minority candidates to be considered for coaching and executive positions within the NFL. However, we would be remiss not to mention that Mr. Flores was one of three finalists for the Texans’ head coach position and, after a great interview and mutual interest, it is obvious that the only reason Mr. Flores was not selected was his decision to stand up against racial inequality across the NFL.

Do Flores’ attorneys really think this is a wise strategy to help their client? Do they really think attacking the Texans for hiring a different black coach is a wise idea?

It seems very stupid, especially when there’s no proof on the table other than their own perceptions of the situation.
The guy was already on the staff.......... ppl are dumb.
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The guy was already on the staff.......... ppl are dumb.
Who was?
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Old 02-09-2022, 03:05 PM   #12
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The guy was already on the staff.......... ppl are dumb.

So what if he was? Flores is a better HC than him.
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You don't think maybe Goodell leaned on the Texans to take a black HC to head off just such a reaction/undermine the case?
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You don't think maybe Goodell leaned on the Texans to take a black HC to head off just such a reaction/undermine the case?

No.
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I’m not as down on Lovie as others. His record in Chicago is legit but then again whose wouldn’t be with Smokin Jay slingin the rock for you.
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