Commanders 2023 Off-Season Thread

[SFREDSKIN]

The draft experts are all goo-goo ga-ga over Bryce Young 6’ 194 LBs. Sam Howell 6’1” 220lbs is just as talented, fuck trading for any of these clowns in particular Rodgers and Carr. Roll with Sam all the way, he has it and these idiot coaches did not give him enough game time. Don’t want to mortgage our salary cap on washed up QB’s, sign players like Payne, Curl, Holcomb, draft 3 OL, CB, LB and call it a day.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

The draft experts are all goo-goo ga-ga over Bryce Young 6’ 194 LBs. Sam Howell 6’1” 220lbs is just as talented, fuck trading for any of these clowns in particular Rodgers and Carr. Roll with Sam all the way, he has it and these idiot coaches did not give him enough game time. Don’t want to mortgage our salary cap on washed up QB’s, sign players like Payne, Curl, Holcomb, draft 3 OL, CB, LB and call it a day.

Bryce Young has been talked about since HS that's why. He's a magician in the pocket similar to Burrow and he's very accurate.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Bryce Young has been talked about since HS that's why. He's a magician in the pocket similar to Burrow and he's very accurate.

So is Howell.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

So is Howell.

I think he's good too and hope they build around him but I also know Ron is going to be in win now mode so I bet he gets another QB

[sdskinsfan2001]

Give me this 2023 QB room:

Sam Howell and Jacoby Brissett and 1 of these possible mid-round guys:

Hendon Hooker/Jaren Hall/Dorian Thompson-Robinson/Clayton Tune/Tanner McKee/Aidan O'Connell/Jake Haener

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Give me this 2023 QB room:

Sam Howell and Jacoby Brissett and 1 of these possible mid-round guys:

Hendon Hooker/Jaren Hall/Dorian Thompson-Robinson/Clayton Tune/Tanner McKee/Aidan O'Connell/Jake Haener

This was my first thought too, and what I believe to be the best approach. It would give them the opportunity to get something done with Payne and Curl, and revamp the offensive line, LB corps, and secondary via free agency and the draft.

If not, and they must go after one of the higher tier QBs, please don't mortgage the future for 40 year old AR. Wait for D Carr to be released and get a deal done with him.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Give me this 2023 QB room:

Sam Howell and Jacoby Brissett and 1 of these possible mid-round guys:

Hendon Hooker/Jaren Hall/Dorian Thompson-Robinson/Clayton Tune/Tanner McKee/Aidan O'Connell/Jake Haener

Id be okay with that ... doesnt solve our QB1 problem but Brissett could compliment our 2-1 run offense, probably be better at quick pass play calls, good ball protection and let the D do their thing.

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Carr's most recent extension included the right for the Raiders to cut him within three days of the Super Bowl for a relatively minor $5.625 salary-cap hit and gave the quarterback a no-trade clause.

Thursday's statement could be seen as taking away the Raiders' leverage in a trade. Carr, whose contract guarantees him $40 million if he is still with Las Vegas or agrees to a trade before Feb. 15, could simply wait for the Raiders to release him and hit the open market, with Las Vegas getting nothing in return.

Trades cannot become official until March 15. So if the Raiders do find a trade partner for Carr, not only would the quarterback have to agree to the destination, the Raiders would also have to trust that the other team would not back out. So while Carr might find a robust market for his services, his trade value to the Raiders might not be as high as it once was.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...e-raiders-fans

Cant say I fully understand this or seen it before.

Looked up Carrs contract .. what a funky contract. there is little guaranteed money left and its all salary.

Wow what an odd contract.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/las-vega...ek-carr-14445/

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Id be okay with that ... doesnt solve our QB1 problem but Brissett could compliment our 2-1 run offense, probably be better at quick pass play calls, good ball protection and let the D do their thing.

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Carr's most recent extension included the right for the Raiders to cut him within three days of the Super Bowl for a relatively minor $5.625 salary-cap hit and gave the quarterback a no-trade clause.

Thursday's statement could be seen as taking away the Raiders' leverage in a trade. Carr, whose contract guarantees him $40 million if he is still with Las Vegas or agrees to a trade before Feb. 15, could simply wait for the Raiders to release him and hit the open market, with Las Vegas getting nothing in return.

Trades cannot become official until March 15. So if the Raiders do find a trade partner for Carr, not only would the quarterback have to agree to the destination, the Raiders would also have to trust that the other team would not back out. So while Carr might find a robust market for his services, his trade value to the Raiders might not be as high as it once was.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...e-raiders-fans

Cant say I fully understand this or seen it before.

Looked up Carrs contract .. what a funky contract. there is little guaranteed money left and its all salary.

Wow what an odd contract.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/las-vega...ek-carr-14445/

If I'm Carr, my preference would to be traded before February 15th. No one is paying him 40 million on the open market, unless they're insane. I'll take my 40 million this year, then worry about my future after that.

[mooby]

I wouldn't mind another vet QB but I don't want to give up another draft haul for him. That's why I'm comfortable bringing in another vet in FA to compete with Howell. Next year is a wasted year anyways with a lame duck HC and a probable new owner.

[Chico23231]

It’s time to extend Curl…making lil money and crucial to defense. Just get it done

[BaltimoreSkins]

Commanders fans to anyone who can throw over 10 yards

[BaltimoreSkins]

I put other. My preferred options is to see if a QB with a first or second round grade is available when we pick. Maybe a minor move up like the Ravens did for Lamar.

[Chief X_Phackter]

These QBs all average $40 million or more per year. Goff is right behind them at $35 million. Derek Carr will definitely get $40 million per year on the open market.

Aaron Rodgers
Russell Wilson
Kyler Murray
Deshaun Watson
Patrick Mahomes
Josh Allen
Matt Stafford
Dak Prescott
Kirk Cousins

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

These QBs all average $40 million or more per year. Goff is right behind them at $35 million. Derek Carr will definitely get $40 million per year on the open market.

Aaron Rodgers
Russell Wilson
Kyler Murray
Deshaun Watson
Patrick Mahomes
Josh Allen
Matt Stafford
Dak Prescott
Kirk Cousins

I'll cry myself to sleep every night, if it's our team that pays him 40 million.

Aaron Rodgers - Earned
Russell Wilson - Worst trade/contract in NFL history if this season is his new play
Kyler Murray - Not worth it
Deshaun Watson - TBD. Prior to getting Tuddy's all over Houston, he would have been worth it
Patrick Mahomes - Can't pay him enough
Josh Allen - Can't pay him enough
Matt Stafford - I'd take it due to getting a Super Bowl
Dak Prescott - Not worth it
Kirk Cousins - Not worth it

[Chief X_Phackter]

That's the going rate for a top 10 QB. You can opine that it's not worth it, but that's the rate.