Tom "Iceman" Brady

GTripp0012 · 01-20-2007, 12:45 AM

One more point:

2002 NE was a better team (better ranked) than 2001 NE in all three phases of the game; offense, defense, and special teams...thus a bettter football team. However, 2001 NE won the super bowl, and 2002 NE missed the playoffs.

A last place schedule, a tuck rule, and the Steelers and Rams, teams far better than the Patriots, both laying respective eggs in championship games was all it took to turn Tom Brady into a legend.

Maybe Manning IS due this year.

Disclaimer: The 2003 Patriots and 2004 Patriots were both the leagues' best teams in their respective years. Both teams were most deserving of a Championship. All I'm saying is that the 2001 Patriots were lucky SOBs. The same source that has the 03 and 04 Pats as the leagues best team has 01 NE as the leagues 12th best team.

Source: Football Outsiders

LMsexyAO · 01-21-2007, 01:10 AM

The bottom line is that Gtripp values stats over wins, he was probably a HUGE Brunell fan!

Too bad the NFL isn't a giant game of fantasy football, ONLY then would I pick Manning over Brady.

GTripp0012 · 01-21-2007, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by LMsexyAO

The bottom line is that Gtripp values stats over wins, he was probably a HUGE Brunell fan!

Too bad the NFL isn't a giant game of fantasy football, ONLY then would I pick Manning over Brady.

For the last freakin time, its not about stats vs. wins. It's about using information available to us to predict wins.

If its about wins, why are we talking about individual players anyway.

Brunell was 3-6 (.333), to Campbell's 2-5 (.286). Seems to me that whether valuing stats OR wins, Brunell led in both.
:smashfrea

Defensewins · 01-21-2007, 07:46 PM

BUt wait it wasn't Manning fault. The ball was over inflated. That PROVES Manning is the best QB of all time! It is obvious to everyone that Manning threw it in the right place. Asante Samuel was in the wrong place. That is a fact.

Pocket$ $traight · 01-21-2007, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Defensewins

BUt wait it wasn't Manning fault. The ball was over inflated. That PROVES Manning is the best QB of all time! It is obvious to everyone that Manning threw it in the right place. Asante Samuel was in the wrong place. That is a fact.

What? I can't hear you...

GiantsSuck703 · 01-21-2007, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

What? I can't hear you...

I still dont understand how your arguing this, what has Peyton Manning won yet? Does he have a superbowl ring? Just because he won today doesnt make him better, he still has a lot of catching up to do if you plan on saying hes better than Brady

Pocket$ $traight · 01-21-2007, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GiantsSuck703

I still dont understand how your arguing this, what has Peyton Manning won yet? Does he have a superbowl ring? Just because he won today doesnt make him better, he still has a lot of catching up to do if you plan on saying hes better than Brady

He just beat Mr. Freeze, that is what he won. He was better than Brady today. Mr. Freeze had several chances to "ice" the game and he blew it. I guess he isn't as great as most of the posters in this thread claim.

GiantsSuck703 · 01-21-2007, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

He just beat Mr. Freeze, that is what he won. He was better than Brady today. Mr. Freeze had several chances to "ice" the game and he blew it. I guess he isn't as great as most of the posters in this thread claim.

Your right, I will agree with you on this, Manning was the better QB today, but there has been far to many other times when Brady has been the better QB for me to say that Peyton is the superior player

Pocket$ $traight · 01-21-2007, 08:59 PM

Where is the beloved Iceman now? He sure could use another fumble t.d. to the lineman right about now.

GiantsSuck703 · 01-21-2007, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

Where is the beloved Iceman now? He sure could use another fumble t.d. to the lineman right about now.

uh, the beloved Iceman has been pretty damn good so far, oh wait, does Peyton need another Rhodes fumble recovered for a TD by a lineman

Pocket$ $traight · 01-21-2007, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GiantsSuck703

uh, the beloved Iceman has been pretty damn good so far, oh wait, does Peyton need another Rhodes fumble recovered for a TD by a lineman

Nice one Mr. Freeze!

mike340 · 01-21-2007, 10:58 PM

I guess Barry Sanders must be almost worthless according to the "Brady is God, Peyton is a chump" crowd.

GTripp0012 · 01-22-2007, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by GiantsSuck703

uh, the beloved Iceman has been pretty damn good so far, oh wait, does Peyton need another Rhodes fumble recovered for a TD by a lineman

You are completely and utterly retarded.

Brady got a touchdown in the first half the exact same way. Did you watch the game?

Pocket$ $traight · 01-21-2007, 09:06 PM

As good as Manning is, he can't beat New England and the refs...

wilsowilso · 01-21-2007, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

As good as Manning is, he can't beat New England and the refs...

Or the post to A Samuel.. Oh wait?????

01-20-2007, 12:45 AM	#1
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 38 Posts: 15,994	Re: Tom "Iceman" Brady One more point: 2002 NE was a better team (better ranked) than 2001 NE in all three phases of the game; offense, defense, and special teams...thus a bettter football team. However, 2001 NE won the super bowl, and 2002 NE missed the playoffs. A last place schedule, a tuck rule, and the Steelers and Rams, teams far better than the Patriots, both laying respective eggs in championship games was all it took to turn Tom Brady into a legend. Maybe Manning IS due this year. Disclaimer: The 2003 Patriots and 2004 Patriots were both the leagues' best teams in their respective years. Both teams were most deserving of a Championship. All I'm saying is that the 2001 Patriots were lucky SOBs. The same source that has the 03 and 04 Pats as the leagues best team has 01 NE as the leagues 12th best team. Source: Football Outsiders __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

01-21-2007, 01:10 AM	#2
LMsexyAO Impact Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 684	Re: Tom "Iceman" Brady The bottom line is that Gtripp values stats over wins, he was probably a HUGE Brunell fan! Too bad the NFL isn't a giant game of fantasy football, ONLY then would I pick Manning over Brady.

01-21-2007, 07:46 PM	#4
Defensewins Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 3,767	Re: Tom "Iceman" Brady BUt wait it wasn't Manning fault. The ball was over inflated. That PROVES Manning is the best QB of all time! It is obvious to everyone that Manning threw it in the right place. Asante Samuel was in the wrong place. That is a fact.

01-21-2007, 08:59 PM	#9
Pocket$ $traight Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fairfax, VA Age: 50 Posts: 4,261	Re: Tom "Iceman" Brady Where is the beloved Iceman now? He sure could use another fumble t.d. to the lineman right about now.

01-21-2007, 10:58 PM	#12
mike340 Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2006 Age: 69 Posts: 322	Re: Tom "Iceman" Brady I guess Barry Sanders must be almost worthless according to the "Brady is God, Peyton is a chump" crowd.

01-21-2007, 09:06 PM	#14
Pocket$ $traight Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fairfax, VA Age: 50 Posts: 4,261	Re: Tom "Iceman" Brady As good as Manning is, he can't beat New England and the refs...

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