JC is not what I thought.

[SmootSmack]

You mean his Wonderlic? Yeah, but it's irrelevant what his score was either time he took it. Ryan Fitzpatrick had close to a 40, better than any starting QB in the league. How many teams would prefer Fitzpatrick as their starter?

[memphisskin]

Doesn't matter who you put behind center when the offensive line is breaking down up the middle. And it really doesn't matter who lines up, because the savior will always be the guy holding the clipboard, only if he really was the answer he'd be behind center and not holding a clipboard.

[djnemo65]

Campbell didn't have a good game but the idea that what went down yesterday would definitively change your opinion of him is aggressively ass-stupid. He made the same mistakes he has always made while also showing the same physical gifts (at times). 4 years in this is who he has always been. I think he can improve but the game didn't change my opinion of him in any way.

[prinzeofmoval]

Okay so we can't be mad for him getting jammed up look at Brett, Tony and Tom last year. The had a miserable time and Jason is no where in their league. But he doesn't have the killer instinct that we need in a quarterback. I don't see Ben, Peyton, Brady, Favre or even Mcnabb and Romo in him. We need that fire to put us over the hedge.

[Redskin Warrior]

Originally Posted by prinzeofmoval

Okay so we can't be mad for him getting jammed up look at Brett, Tony and Tom last year. The had a miserable time and Jason is no where in their league. But he doesn't have the killer instinct that we need in a quarterback. I don't see Ben, Peyton, Brady, Favre or even Mcnabb and Romo in him. We need that fire to put us over the hedge.

All have better o-lines and WR's other than the Eagles then us there is not comparing them to Jason.

[prinzeofmoval]

Originally Posted by Redskin Warrior

All have better o-lines and WR's other than the Eagles then us there is not comparing them to Jason.

How do you figure they have better recievers? Outside of Peyton who really does everybody has one good one with the rest being role players. O-Line you got me there.

[SUNRA]

Originally Posted by prinzeofmoval

How do you figure they have better recievers? Outside of Peyton who really does everybody has one good one with the rest being role players. O-Line you got me there.

JC often looks lethargic like Eli. You really can't tell what he's thinking and you certainly don't see him getting excited when he misses an open receiver. I don't know where this team will be in two weeks, but Jason has to get it right in 10 days.

[Redskin Warrior]

Originally Posted by prinzeofmoval

How do you figure they have better recievers? Outside of Peyton who really does everybody has one good one with the rest being role players. O-Line you got me there.

GB- Jennings, Driver, Lee
NE- Moss & Welker
IND- Wayne, Harrison, Clark
DAL- Owens, Crayton & Witten

face it there better then our combination of WR's & TE that's why we drafted 2 WR's & a TE.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

I just got done watching the game (I love DVR). While I understand any loss is frustrating, you guys who are bashing JC and going down the "lacks intellect" & "can't read defenses" road are flat out wrong. Football is a team sport and while a QB can definitely lose a game by himself, that was not the case on Thursday.

I would challenge any of you bashing JC to sit down, watch an NFL game, and guess what coverage is being called on each play (BTW you won't have 300 lbers trying to rip your head off while doing it). I'll bet you won't make the correct call more than 40-50% of the time, less against Spags' defense. He's a very good DC who disguises coverages well.

For the most part JC made the right reads and decisions. He missed Cooley early (threw to Betts on the screen as Matty pointed out). He made a bad throw to Moss deep (underthrown). Other than that he looked solid in his decsion making. WRs needed to be smarter in finding the 1st down marker, penalties put us in 2nd-3rd and long several times. On those 3rd & longs don't you think a good DC is going to cover deep (rhetorical). Would you rather JC force the ball deep into coverage and turn it over?

Let's look at things realistically: JC didn't turn it over, we were in the game throughout, and in a new offense there will be penalties and missed assignments by all players, that needs to be correct by all. We faced one of the better defenses and top DCs in the NFL with a new HC and new offense. Did you guys expect us to put up 40? Things could've been different if we avoided penalties, if Thrash makes the catch at the end of the game, if Moss doesn't drop the ball on the slant late. Don't forget we have undersized WRs, that doesn't help when you want to create a physical mismatch to pressure the outside of the field.

JC has great potential and Zorn will bring it out. His development and the development of Thomas & Kelly will put is in good position gong forward into 2009. Unfortunately early-mid 2008 will be a challenge. If we manage 9-7 this season and show improvement in the offensive execution late in the season to me will it will be a successful one.

[Cowell]

Come on now? What are the realistic expectations? These guys are professional athletes... they get paid MILLIONS to play football and that's it. I know we can't win every game but we really can't even produce?
But someone please explain to me what realistic expectations are? Shouldn't we expect to win? Or at least have some production on offense?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by prinzeofmoval

Okay so we can't be mad for him getting jammed up look at Brett, Tony and Tom last year. The had a miserable time and Jason is no where in their league. But he doesn't have the killer instinct that we need in a quarterback. I don't see Ben, Peyton, Brady, Favre or even Mcnabb and Romo in him. We need that fire to put us over the hedge.

How would you quantify killer instinct and/or fire? More to the point, what does Campbell have to do to show that he's got killer instinct and fire similar to Brady or Favre?

[GusFrerotte]

Wait til weeks 5-7 til we truly evaluate how JC is doing. If JC doesn't experience any significant improvement maybe we do have a QB problem, but til then all we can say is that he had a crappy opening game.

[theJBexperience]

JC did look rough at times: he held onto the ball too long, he wasn't very mobile in the pocket, he stared down his primary receiver, and he threw under the chains too much. But he didn't have a whole lot of help. Poor pass protection threw off the timing on some routes like the deep ball to Santana that could've been a TD. Even when he made good throws, there were drops. Moss started running for some YAC without bringing it in, and Thrash had a beautiful deep ball bounce off his hands and shoulder pads. Penalties deflated drives. All those mistakes and the Giants D kept the offense from getting into a rhythm. Hopefully, New Orleans' D is still just as porous as it was last year, and the O can get it going next week.

[MTK]

Campbell scored a 14 the first time he took the Wonderlic and a 28 the 2nd time. Still, it's a little offensive that some seem to be insinuating he's not smart enough to play.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Campbell scored a 14 the first time he took the Wonderlic and a 28 the 2nd time. Still, it's a little offensive that some seem to be insinuating he's not smart enough to play.

I believe it was a 14, 27 & 28. I'm also glad to see I'm not the only one who finds it offensive that people keep insulting his intellect.