Will Jason Campbell return?

[DBUCHANON101]

I wouldnt say screwed, just hope the oline and CP can get it done. JC needs to have a breakout yr. id like to see it but at the same time im very doubtful. I just hope no matter how he goes that the FO doesnt attach his fate with Zorn. we need HC stability

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

I wouldnt say screwed, just hope the oline and CP can get it done. JC needs to have a breakout yr. id like to see it but at the same time im very doubtful. I just hope no matter how he goes that the FO doesnt attach his fate with Zorn. we need HC stability

I think Tripp was being sarcastic there. Besides, this is fantasy football rankings, which mean nothing except for those playing FF.

[GTripp0012]

As a fantasy player, I actually was going to say that he's got a pretty solid rankings list...except that Campbell was ranked too low.

[Monksdown]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

As a fantasy player, I actually was going to say that he's got a pretty solid rankings list...except that Campbell was ranked too low.

For fantasy reasons, Jason's sort of a bust. I'll throw out these statistics one more time. Out of 36 games, 9 he's thrown more int's than td's. And he's only thrown more than 2 td's in a game once, two years ago against the Eagles. (you'll remember that was the year where the Eagles caught flak for releasing/not signing both of their starting cornerbacks)

So unless you're in a 2 Qb starting league, and you're at the bottom of the league, Jason should only start on bye weeks. I don't have a problem with low fantasy value. I think it's accurate. In fact, i wouldn't be surprised if he goes undrafted in many smaller fantasy leagues not based out of Washington.

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Monksdown

For fantasy reasons, Jason's sort of a bust. I'll throw out these statistics one more time. Out of 36 games, 9 he's thrown more int's than td's. And he's only thrown more than 2 td's in a game once, two years ago against the Eagles. (you'll remember that was the year where the Eagles caught flak for releasing/not signing both of their starting cornerbacks)

No it wasn't, I think you are referring to 2002 when the team had Troy Vincent and Bobby Taylor on the roster but drafted Lito Sheppard and Sheldon Brown in the 1st and 2nd rounds (I think, I mean really I have no idea where you came up with that one). The starting corners in 2007 were Sheppard and Brown. The starting wide receivers in the 2007 Eagles game you keep referencing were Randle El and James Thrash. Thrash caught two TDs and Keenan McCardell caught the other. So if you want to a make a personel argument, well perhaps you see my point.

But can this thread just die already?

[Monksdown]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

No it wasn't, I think you are referring to 2002 when the team had Troy Vincent and Bobby Taylor on the roster but drafted Lito Sheppard and Sheldon Brown in the 1st and 2nd rounds (I think, I mean really I have no idea where you came up with that one). The starting corners in 2007 were Sheppard and Brown. The starting wide receivers in the 2007 Eagles game you keep referencing were Randle El and James Thrash. Thrash caught two TDs and Keenan McCardell caught the other. So if you want to a make a personel argument, well perhaps you see my point.

But can this thread just die already?

Thank you sir. Besides my credibility on the Eagles roster front, it doesnt take away from the fact that fantasy-wise, he's not exactly a heavy hitter. And i'm sure most of us can attest, that any owner that has drafted Jason over the last 3 years, is a rather huge homer.

Yeah, i can let this one die. Just bored.

[DBUCHANON101]

Why are the ppl who like Colt Brennan considered to be haters? I think it has more to do with them getting tired of waiting on JC to show some kind of promise for the money he is making.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

Why are the ppl who like Colt Brennan considered to be haters? I think it has more to do with them getting tired of waiting on JC to show some kind of promise for the money he is making.

Because the best possible situation for Zorn and the Redskins involves Colt never having to see the field for injury or ineffectiveness or any other reason. Thus, the 'hating' part, would describe people's attitude to the entire situation. I hope 'X' plan fails so that we can give 'Y' plan a shot. That would be hating on personal preference.

Which isn't wrong, at least by logical structure. It's just hating.

It's essentally the opposite of wanting to "just win" by any means necessary. It's wanting to go a different direction first, and hope that you can still win second. Or basically what Snyder wants to do. He's the ultimate hater.

[Missin21]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

Why are the ppl who like Colt Brennan considered to be haters? I think it has more to do with them getting tired of waiting on JC to show some kind of promise for the money he is making.

If you are responding to my post, then allow me to elaborate. I don't consider those who like Colt Brennan to be haters. The people who do nothing BUT bash JC until they are blue in the face, the people who use irrational arguments & don't think about the fact that JC is not the only player on the field, yet any other QB will do...those are the haters. If you do that, then you can consider yourself one.

I like Colt, but he hasn't even proven to be a good QB against anyone EXCEPT 3rd & 4th stringers in Pre-season. Maybe this year, he'll improve like I hope JC does & becomes a great back-up for JC. But my problem is that in all my years as a Redskins fan, who is always the fans' favorite QB? The back-up. Always has been, seemingly always will be. I have no problem with Colt Brennan.

What I do have a problem with is the lack of patience & understanding in this fanbase & the apparent need to destroy everything we've worked for just to see if the next guy will work, because the guy in charge now isn't cutting it. It's ridiculous. I have said this numerous times & will say it numerous times, even tho I know only the people with rational thought will understand this. No team can win anything when they operate like we have. When you have a revolving door of coaches & QBs & there is no steady ground for anyone to stand on, nothing can get going. We change coaches, we change QBs...when was the last time we had the same starting QB 5 years in a row? When was the last time we had a coach that was here for more than 5 years THAT ACTUALLY WON SOMETHING? That's because we change things up so much.

You do realize that every time we have to start over again, that's another 2-5 years that we have to wait for a championship...at least. And at the rate our revolving door swings, we are NEVER going to win anything. Nor do we deserve to until we settle down & actually allow someone to develop into the starting position. The haters will never allow something like that because the haters want everything RIGHT NOW & it just doesn't work that way.

Name me the last SPORTS franchise that changed things up like we do & actually won something out of it. And how long ago was that, anyway?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Missin21

If you are responding to my post, then allow me to elaborate. I don't consider those who like Colt Brennan to be haters. The people who do nothing BUT bash JC until they are blue in the face, the people who use irrational arguments & don't think about the fact that JC is not the only player on the field, yet any other QB will do...those are the haters. If you do that, then you can consider yourself one.

I like Colt, but he hasn't even proven to be a good QB against anyone EXCEPT 3rd & 4th stringers in Pre-season. Maybe this year, he'll improve like I hope JC does & becomes a great back-up for JC. But my problem is that in all my years as a Redskins fan, who is always the fans' favorite QB? The back-up. Always has been, seemingly always will be. I have no problem with Colt Brennan.

What I do have a problem with is the lack of patience & understanding in this fanbase & the apparent need to destroy everything we've worked for just to see if the next guy will work, because the guy in charge now isn't cutting it. It's ridiculous. I have said this numerous times & will say it numerous times, even tho I know only the people with rational thought will understand this. No team can win anything when they operate like we have. When you have a revolving door of coaches & QBs & there is no steady ground for anyone to stand on, nothing can get going. We change coaches, we change QBs...when was the last time we had the same starting QB 5 years in a row? When was the last time we had a coach that was here for more than 5 years THAT ACTUALLY WON SOMETHING? That's because we change things up so much.

You do realize that every time we have to start over again, that's another 2-5 years that we have to wait for a championship...at least. And at the rate our revolving door swings, we are NEVER going to win anything. Nor do we deserve to until we settle down & actually allow someone to develop into the starting position. The haters will never allow something like that because the haters want everything RIGHT NOW & it just doesn't work that way.

Name me the last SPORTS franchise that changed things up like we do & actually won something out of it. And how long ago was that, anyway?

Very well thought out, and very well said.

[Redskin Jim]

Originally Posted by Missin21

If you are responding to my post, then allow me to elaborate. I don't consider those who like Colt Brennan to be haters. The people who do nothing BUT bash JC until they are blue in the face, the people who use irrational arguments & don't think about the fact that JC is not the only player on the field, yet any other QB will do...those are the haters. If you do that, then you can consider yourself one.

I like Colt, but he hasn't even proven to be a good QB against anyone EXCEPT 3rd & 4th stringers in Pre-season. Maybe this year, he'll improve like I hope JC does & becomes a great back-up for JC. But my problem is that in all my years as a Redskins fan, who is always the fans' favorite QB? The back-up. Always has been, seemingly always will be. I have no problem with Colt Brennan.

What I do have a problem with is the lack of patience & understanding in this fanbase & the apparent need to destroy everything we've worked for just to see if the next guy will work, because the guy in charge now isn't cutting it. It's ridiculous. I have said this numerous times & will say it numerous times, even tho I know only the people with rational thought will understand this. No team can win anything when they operate like we have. When you have a revolving door of coaches & QBs & there is no steady ground for anyone to stand on, nothing can get going. We change coaches, we change QBs...when was the last time we had the same starting QB 5 years in a row? When was the last time we had a coach that was here for more than 5 years THAT ACTUALLY WON SOMETHING? That's because we change things up so much.

You do realize that every time we have to start over again, that's another 2-5 years that we have to wait for a championship...at least. And at the rate our revolving door swings, we are NEVER going to win anything. Nor do we deserve to until we settle down & actually allow someone to develop into the starting position. The haters will never allow something like that because the haters want everything RIGHT NOW & it just doesn't work that way.

Name me the last SPORTS franchise that changed things up like we do & actually won something out of it. And how long ago was that, anyway?

Well that Sir is just unAmerican. What red blooded American would work hard, invest sweat equity, and exert patience in order to reap the fruits of their labors?

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Redskin Jim

Well that Sir is just unAmerican. What red blooded American would work hard, invest sweat equity, and exert patience in order to reap the fruits of their labors?

Really Redskin Jim. The nerve of that guy.

[Redskin Jim]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Really Redskin Jim. The nerve of that guy.

LOL, Thanks 53. I was just in your home town yesterday.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Redskin Jim

Well that Sir is just unAmerican. What red blooded American would work hard, invest sweat equity, and exert patience in order to reap the fruits of their labors?

Don't worry, I heard Obama was putting a cap on the number of wins a team could get, any additional would be given to the last place team in the division (if the division is equal they would be spread to conference and then league)

[Redskin Jim]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Don't worry, I heard Obama was putting a cap on the number of wins a team could get, any additional would be given to the last place team in the division (if the division is equal they would be spread to conference and then league)

As it should be... Comrad