ESPN: Clayton Expects Skins to Tender Campbell for a 1st and 3rd

[tryfuhl]

You have QB coaches out there that didn't play the position as well as the guy that they're teaching, but they still know the proper mechanics and fundamentals. JC could be a good personal mentor and probably knows his position very well, it's just can he take that and help someone else get better with it. So not being able to teach someone because you weren't the best would eliminate the need for that position coach.

[irish]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

You have QB coaches out there that didn't play the position as well as the guy that they're teaching, but they still know the proper mechanics and fundamentals. JC could be a good personal mentor and probably knows his position very well, it's just can he take that and help someone else get better with it. So not being able to teach someone because you weren't the best would eliminate the need for that position coach.

True but currently JC isnt a coach, he's a QB, and the new QB is the guy trying to take his job. Its a totally different dynamic.

[Lotus]

Remember the idea that those who can, do, and those who can't, teach? There are a number of great QB coaches and mentors who were not very good QB's.

I think JC would be an excellent mentor for our (still mythical) young qb. He has just the right unselfish attitude and toughness to take a newbie under his wings.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by irish

True but currently JC isnt a coach, he's a QB, and the new QB is the guy trying to take his job. Its a totally different dynamic.

Yeah well we have a QB coach, JC won't be the only one teaching him.

JC's value in mentoring would be helping a guy deal with the mental toughness, picking yourself up off of the ground and going at it again, dealing with the questioning of ability, playbook stuff, etc..

[The Goat]

If there's a vet who could be brought in to truly mentor the future QB of the franchise I would at a "healthy" Chad Pennington first. When healthy he's the best QB on the market this year. I have no idea what his plans are.

[SolidSnake84]

last i heard is that Pennington is supposed to go back to the NYJ to back up Sanchez....he would also be a good one if Sanchez's struggles get worse next year....

[SmootSmack]

irish, just a week ago you said this:

http://www.thewarpath.net/664393-post110.html

What changed your mind?

[irish]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

irish, just a week ago you said this:

http://www.thewarpath.net/664393-post110.html

What changed your mind?

If the choice was a rookie QB and someone like Colt then I would keep JC. If its a rookie and someone like Pennington then I'd let JC go.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

You have QB coaches out there that didn't play the position as well as the guy that they're teaching, but they still know the proper mechanics and fundamentals. JC could be a good personal mentor and probably knows his position very well, it's just can he take that and help someone else get better with it. So not being able to teach someone because you weren't the best would eliminate the need for that position coach.

Agreed. Playing the game and teaching it are two completely different things.

When I think of a mentor I'm thinking of a guy that takes someone under his wing and helps the young guy learn how to prepare themselves for the next level. Whether it's in the classroom, the weight room, or a 2nd set of eyes on the field.

[MTK]

Yeah often the greats make the worst coaches and have no interest in taking a young guy under their wing.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by mattyk

yeah often the greats make the worst coaches and have no interest in taking a young guy under their wing.

lookin like a fool with your pants on the ground

[Redskin Warrior]

Redskins issue first-round tenders to Campbell, Rogers

It's official now

[GTripp0012]

Watching the Raiders try to tender players has to be the equivalent of NFL stand-up comedy.

Player who has led the team in tackles the last five years: 3rd round tender. Player who has more or less busted at CB and brings only height-speed to the table: 1st and 3rd round tender.

Not to suggest that they're overvaluing Morrison at a 3rd round tender, it would probably be a good deal for them to get a 3rd rounder for him now, but I have no idea what standard that team is on.

[flaherty]

Tendering Campbell for a first only is liking inviting the rest of the league to bid on him. They want him gone. If they were okay with going into next year with him wouldn't they tender him for a 1st and a 3rd and take a shot at getting 2 picks? They must want to swap Campbell for somebody's 1st-round pick and then use the 2 1st-rounders to trade up for Bradford.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by flaherty

Tendering Campbell for a first only is liking inviting the rest of the league to bid on him. They want him gone. If they were okay with going into next year with him wouldn't they tender him for a 1st and a 3rd and take a shot at getting 2 picks? They must want to swap Campbell for somebody's 1st-round pick and then use the 2 1st-rounders to trade up for Bradford.

Welcome aboard. I don't know how much we can assume about Shanny. Bradford is getting tons of hype but I doubt that means much to our FO. Shanny knows the needs of his system best and what he want from a QB. Certainly possible Bradford is a good fit, but I haven't heard anyone say as much (and I don't have enough knowledge to make an evaluation).

...historically all I can say is Shanny has only seemed to get solid offensive production out of QBs who have a relatively quick release and enough arm to tattoo the WR. Evidently Bradford has a quick release, but I haven't seen any video of him firing a bullet.

So it's conceivable Shanny and the FO simply don't want JC but don't have Bradford strictly targeted. There are a handful of vets out there who IMO would be better mentors for a rookie QB (Pennington and Garcia namely).