Arizona's New Immigration Law

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

U don't use the American flag for something trivial as taunting Mexicans on Cinco de Mayo. Their school is not a battle field. How is the Irish flag treated on St. Patty's day?

The vast, vast majority of Mexicans don't give a damn about Cinco de Mayo!! Look it up. In the USA, Cinco de Mayo is kind of like Valentine's Day. A corporate hype job to sell alcohol just like V-day is to sell cards/flowers/chocolate. Maybe the motivation of those kids who wore the American flag shirts was misplaced, but the bottom line is you should NEVER be sent home from school in this country for wearing our flag. Ever. Should the school have lowered the American Flag from their flagposts on May 5th? It would be one thing if some Americans living in Mexico City paraded around in those t-shirts. But this is the US of A. Under no circumstances should our colors be suppressed within our borders for any reason. It's heading down a dangerous path if we sell our own national pride short on our own soil at the expense of a foreign nation. I don't give shit what the event is.

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by GMScud

The vast, vast majority of Mexicans don't give a damn about Cinco de Mayo!! Look it up. In the USA, Cinco de Mayo is kind of like Valentine's Day. A corporate hype job to sell alcohol just like V-day is to sell cards/flowers/chocolate. Maybe the motivation of those kids who wore the American flag shirts was misplaced, but the bottom line is you should NEVER be sent home from school in this country for wearing our flag. Ever. Should the school have lowered the American Flag from their flagposts on May 5th? It would be one thing if some Americans living in Mexico City paraded around in those t-shirts. But this is the US of A. Under no circumstances should our colors be suppressed within our borders for any reason. It's heading down a dangerous path if we sell our own national pride short on our own soil at the expense of a foreign nation. I don't give shit what the event is.

Look you trying to make cinco de mayo seem like an invasion be realistic. National pride? They should be sent home for disrespecting the American flag.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

Look you trying to make cinco de mayo seem like an invasion be realistic. National pride? They should be sent home for disrespecting the American flag.

Dude how blasted were you when posting this?

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by GMScud

But this is the US of A. Under no circumstances should our colors be suppressed within our borders for any reason. It's heading down a dangerous path if we sell our own national pride short on our own soil at the expense of a foreign nation. I don't give shit what the event is.

i couldn't agree more.

and i don't know where everyone lives since some people don't have their locations listed but if you are coming up with your conclusions on these issues and you live about 50 miles or so outside of dc you really don't understand what is happening to cause people to wear american flags on cinco de mayo. you might think these kids are not on the "front lines" but you are wrong. just imagine how under funded the schools are there as well as here.

it is a shame to see what has happened to the town i grew up in over the past decade, i can't even tell you what half of the freaking stores are anymore cause nothing is in englis., and it's a shame where this country is headed. we need to get a real solution to the immigration problems and we need them now.

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

i couldn't agree more.

and i don't know where everyone lives since some people don't have their locations listed but if you are coming up with your conclusions on these issues and you live about 50 miles or so outside of dc you really don't understand what is happening to cause people to wear american flags on cinco de mayo. you might think these kids are not on the "front lines" but you are wrong. just imagine how under funded the schools are there as well as here.

it is a shame to see what has happened to the town i grew up in over the past decade, i can't even tell you what half of the freaking stores are anymore cause nothing is in englis., and it's a shame where this country is headed. we need to get a real solution to the immigration problems and we need them now.

i forgot everybody is a patriot. Hahahaha.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

i couldn't agree more.

and i don't know where everyone lives since some people don't have their locations listed but if you are coming up with your conclusions on these issues and you live about 50 miles or so outside of dc you really don't understand what is happening to cause people to wear american flags on cinco de mayo. you might think these kids are not on the "front lines" but you are wrong. just imagine how under funded the schools are there as well as here.

it is a shame to see what has happened to the town i grew up in over the past decade, i can't even tell you what half of the freaking stores are anymore cause nothing is in englis., and it's a shame where this country is headed. we need to get a real solution to the immigration problems and we need them now.

You racist bastard you should learn spanish so you you can read the store names.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

U don't use the American flag for something trivial as taunting Mexicans on Cinco de Mayo. Their school is not a battle field. How is the Irish flag treated on St. Patty's day?

You're just putting words into people's mouths. Nobody said anything about taunting hispanics including Mexicans. St Patty's Day is a gimmick holiday in America much the same as Cinco de Mayo has become here; what does the Irish flag have to do with it? We're talking about the American flag, has anybody been sent home for that?

[joethiesmanfan]

that's the same thing as a mofo wearing a daishiki to show he hate white people.

[firstdown]

Says alot about our nation when kids wearing the flag are sent home and mexican kids can keep wearing their shirts/flags. I guess thats why we have to push one to speak english.

[Hog1]

'In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American....There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language.. And we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.'

Theodore Roosevelt 1907





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[SmootSmack]

"Immigration is the sincerest form of flattery."-Jack Paar

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

"Immigration is the sincerest form of flattery."-Jack Paar

That should read "Legal Immigration is the sincerest form of flattery"

[mlmpetert]

I was talking to a friend over the weekend who is half Bolivian. His Mom is a legal immigrant from Bolivia. She for this law and is also for enforcing Federal immigration laws, because she thinks its unfair to entitle people who are here illegally with the same benefits she and many others worked so hard to obtain. I will ask my Grandmother who worked hard to become a legal immigrant what her thoughts are.

Out of curiosity, are any of you are first generation legal immigrants and if so what is your attitude of this law?

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

I was talking to a friend over the weekend who is half Bolivian. His Mom is a legal immigrant from Bolivia. She for this law and is also for enforcing Federal immigration laws, because she thinks its unfair to entitle people who are here illegally with the same benefits she and many others worked so hard to obtain. I will ask my Grandmother who worked hard to become a legal immigrant what her thoughts are.

Out of curiosity, are any of you are first generation legal immigrants and if so what is your attitude of this law?

I talked to my Grandma last night, more specifically Grammy. All she ever wants to talk about is stuff like telling me to work hard, be honest, stay in contact with family and other old lady grandma advice. So when I asked her what she thought about the law she didn’t really go into detail (and I don’t get the sense she is up to date on her current events). She basically said that you have to do the honest thing and coming here illegally is not honest and is wrong. That’s pretty much all I could get out of her.

Grammy immigrated to the US in either the early 50’s or late 40’s when she was like 25 or so, leaving a communist country. My dad was born here, but I think at least one of my aunts was born overseas. Like most immigrants she said they only came with what they could physically carry and had a low amount of money, like 20 bucks or something. She said it took her 5 years to be a citizen (but she had kids born here after she came).

Has anyone else talked to legal immigrants that worked hard to become citizens (or are working hard towards becoming a citizen) and get their view point?

Also, something that im sure will piss TTE off, she told me she just received a call from her insurance company and they reduced her car insurance by 25%! I have never seen her drive in my life and had no idea she had a license. Shes pretty old and im not sure how I feel about her driving.

[mredskins]

I saw this the other day and instantly thought of this thread.

I edited it it was in poor taste.