LOL @ Redskins

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

no. But he got me fired up!!!!!!!

I think he basically spoke for every "Longtime suffering Redskins Fan". he's our new spokesperson.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I think he basically spoke for every "Longtime suffering Redskins Fan". he's our new spokesperson.

Speak for yourself I think he is douche bag and really doesn't even give two craps about the Skins. I can seriously remember back in the day him on the Junkies and when they talked Redskins or any sports he was mum. He just said all that crap for ratings.

CHAD DUKES IS NOT A SPORTS FAN!

[MTK]

With all the change we've had under Snyder, I really can't believe some are advocating for even more change. Can we just get something in place and let it ride for a few years? The constant change is what our main problem has been. Change at QB, change with the coaches, front office, etc.

Amazing that some don't see that, really amazing.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

With all the change we've had under Snyder, I really can't believe some are advocating for even more change. Can we just get something in place and let it ride for a few years? The constant change is what our main problem has been. Change at QB, change with the coaches, front office, etc.

Amazing that some don't see that, really amazing.

Seriously... Weren't people demanding we "blow it up" about 2 years ago when everyone was calling for Gibbs head because after 2 years we didn't make the playoffs? Then we brought in Zorn and practically a whole new coaching staff.. Then this year we cleaned FO house and got rid of Zorn, Vinny and brought in ANOTHER FO/coaching staff? A QB, some RBs (although the 2 well known names didn't make the team), 1 good o-line men and a couple of dummies, some d-line fodder and a CB or 2..?

Yeah... I don't think the blow it up approach is working too well. Those people suggesting that have had the Snyder-ray goggles on for far too long.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Seriously... Weren't people demanding we "blow it up" about 2 years ago when everyone was calling for Gibbs head because after 2 years we didn't make the playoffs? Then we brought in Zorn and practically a whole new coaching staff.. Then this year we cleaned FO house and got rid of Zorn, Vinny and brought in ANOTHER FO/coaching staff? A QB, some RBs (although the 2 well known names didn't make the team), 1 good o-line men and a couple of dummies, some d-line fodder and a CB or 2..?

Yeah... I don't think the blow it up approach is working too well. Those people suggesting that have had the Snyder-ray goggles on for far too long.

It's still a lot of the same players for the most part. They gotta start cutting dead weight.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

With all the change we've had under Snyder, I really can't believe some are advocating for even more change. Can we just get something in place and let it ride for a few years? The constant change is what our main problem has been. Change at QB, change with the coaches, front office, etc.

Amazing that some don't see that, really amazing.

I agree to an extent, although I think Shanahan has already made some pretty big mistakes, and I think Haslett is one of them. He walked into a job with some very good personnel on the defensive side, and this unit has spiraled downhill rapidly. If there's one thing Sunday showed us, the turnovers we were forcing were masking some massive deficiencies. We didn't force a turnover and proceeded to set NFL records for futility.

As a personnel guy, Shanahan wiffed big time on Jamaal Brown and Artis Hicks, and I have no idea WTF he's doing with this whole Lichtensteiger thing. Put some pads back on Dockery please.

I'd like to see Haslett get the boot, and we flat out need a better O-line and pass catchers. I could see us winning maybe 2 or 3 more games this year, but I'd almost rather lose out and end up with the higher pick. I just don't see this team turning it around in 2010.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I agree to an extent, although I think Shanahan has already made some pretty big mistakes, and I think Haslett is one of them. He walked into a job with some very good personnel on the defensive side, and this unit has spiraled downhill rapidly. If there's one thing Sunday showed us, the turnovers we were forcing were masking some massive deficiencies. We didn't force a turnover and proceeded to set NFL records for futility.

As a personnel guy, Shanahan wiffed big time on Jamaal Brown and Artis Hicks, and I have no idea WTF he's doing with this whole Lichtensteiger thing. Put some pads back on Dockery please.

I'd like to see Haslett get the boot, and we flat out need a better O-line and pass catchers. I could see us winning maybe 2 or 3 more games this year, but I'd almost rather lose out and end up with the higher pick. I just don't see this team turning it around in 2010.

I think the jury's still out on Brown, he needs to get healthy which many thought wouldn't fully happen until 2011. Of course, they need to re-sign him first. But Brown's a legit, again when healthy, OT who can play both sides of the line and I like that we went after him

Hicks has been a huge disappointment

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I agree to an extent, although I think Shanahan has already made some pretty big mistakes, and I think Haslett is one of them. He walked into a job with some very good personnel on the defensive side, and this unit has spiraled downhill rapidly. If there's one thing Sunday showed us, the turnovers we were forcing were masking some massive deficiencies. We didn't force a turnover and proceeded to set NFL records for futility.

As a personnel guy, Shanahan wiffed big time on Jamaal Brown and Artis Hicks, and I have no idea WTF he's doing with this whole Lichtensteiger thing. Put some pads back on Dockery please.

I'd like to see Haslett get the boot, and we flat out need a better O-line and pass catchers. I could see us winning maybe 2 or 3 more games this year, but I'd almost rather lose out and end up with the higher pick. I just don't see this team turning it around in 2010.

I can't argue your comment on Brown or Hicks. I'll even go so far as to say Haslett at the time was a confusing interview due to the fact that his stats sucked. When he was named DC I said bad move, but in Haslett's defense do you really think it's all his fault and he should be canned?

People keep jumping on the Haslett needs to go bandwagon and I truly wonder if anyone would have done any better. When Shanahan was hired he already had the decision made to switch to a 3-4 defense. Due to the fact we don't have all the personel to run a 3-4 I think anyone brought in would have done just as bad or good and the same comments would be made about them. I'll agree a good coach looks at his players and uses developed a scheme around their talents and abilities BUT that's not what Shanahan wanted. Shanahan wanted a 3-4 style of defense the whole time knowing the players are mostly 4-3 style of players. I can't fault Haslett for this and don't think he needs to be fired after only 9 games. I honestly don't know what the right time frame should be but atleast give the coaching staff the time to get the right personell brought in before determining that Haslett is a dud. After next season if the defense shows no improvement to the 3-4 scheme then firing Haslett might have more merit.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I can't argue your comment on Brown or Hicks. I'll even go so far as to say Haslett at the time was a confusing interview due to the fact that his stats sucked. When he was named DC I said bad move, but in Haslett's defense do you really think it's all his fault and he should be canned?

People keep jumping on the Haslett needs to go bandwagon and I truly wonder if anyone would have done any better. When Shanahan was hired he already had the decision made to switch to a 3-4 defense. Due to the fact we don't have all the personel to run a 3-4 I think anyone brought in would have done just as bad or good and the same comments would be made about them. I'll agree a good coach looks at his players and uses developed a scheme around their talents and abilities BUT that's not what Shanahan wanted. Shanahan wanted a 3-4 style of defense the whole time knowing the players are mostly 4-3 style of players. I can't fault Haslett for this and don't think he needs to be fired after only 9 games. I honestly don't know what the right time frame should be but atleast give the coaching staff the time to get the right personell brought in before determining that Haslett is a dud. After next season if the defense shows no improvement to the 3-4 scheme then firing Haslett might have more merit.

Well, you've got remember that we're actually using more 4-3 looks this year than we are 3-4. And we still suck.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Well, you've got remember that we're actually using more 4-3 looks this year than we are 3-4. And we still suck.

Why do people keep saying this? I am not seeing more 4-3 looks than 3-4 looks. If we are playing a 4-3 so damn much, then how come our best 4-3 lineman aren't in the damn game. are you counting a LB standing at the end a 4-3 front?? just dont get it. I consistanty see 3-4 fronts, 2 man fronts, and if I ever see that damn 1 man front again i am going to puke.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

With all the change we've had under Snyder, I really can't believe some are advocating for even more change. Can we just get something in place and let it ride for a few years? The constant change is what our main problem has been. Change at QB, change with the coaches, front office, etc.

Amazing that some don't see that, really amazing.

FINE.... KEEP SHANAHAN BUT GUT THIS TEAM. I've had enough of..Cooley, Moss, Haynesworth, Carter, Hicks, Brown, McNabb, Kemo, Daniels, Rabach, Fletcher, Portis, Sellers, Rogers, Hall, Moore, Hicks, Heyer, Goldston...I'm probably missing some more. What have we won with these guys? NOTHING!

[CrustyRedskin]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

FINE.... KEEP SHANAHAN BUT GUT THIS TEAM. I've had enough of..Cooley, Moss, Haynesworth, Carter, Hicks, Brown, McNabb, Kemo, Daniels, Rabach, Fletcher, Portis, Sellers, Rogers, Hall, Moore, Hicks, Heyer, Goldston...I'm probably missing some more. What have we won with these guys? NOTHING!

I always kinda liked Daniels. Im just saying. didnt mean to interupt the

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by CrustyRedskin

I always kinda liked Daniels. Im just saying. didnt mean to interupt the

well go back and view the long run by Harriosn Mon. night and then get back to me on Daniels. The guy hasn't done anything since his multi sack game against Dallas in 05. ENOUGH! Why isn't Rob Jackson or Jarmon getting his reps????????????????

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

well go back and view the long run by Harriosn Mon. night and then get back to me on Daniels. The guy hasn't done anything since his multi sack game against Dallas in 05. ENOUGH! Why isn't Rob Jackson or Jarmon getting his reps????????????????

They're not getting his reps cause they're light & not run stoppers. Daniels has always played well in that regard & can play DT or DE. Sure, he hasn't gotten many sacks since that great game in 05, but he holds his own. Blocked a FG this year & is in on short yardage packages, which this team has been surprisingly solid at.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

FINE.... KEEP SHANAHAN BUT GUT THIS TEAM. I've had enough of..Cooley, Moss, Haynesworth, Carter, Hicks, Brown, McNabb, Kemo, Daniels, Rabach, Fletcher, Portis, Sellers, Rogers, Hall, Moore, Hicks, Heyer, Goldston...I'm probably missing some more. What have we won with these guys? NOTHING!

My somewhat educated guess on what will happen with these guys:

Cooley: Trade bait
Moss: Re-signed to a short term deal
Carter: Gone (maybe traded)
Hicks: Back as a reserve
Brown: Back as a starter
McNabb: Back
Heyer: Back as a reserve
Kemo: If he'll take a cut, back as a reserve
Daniels: Back as a reserve, unless he chooses to retire
Rabach: Gone
Fletcher: Back, he needs an heir though
Portis: Back
Sellers: Please be gone
Rogers: Will leave as a free agent
Hall: Back
Moore: They''ll look to replace him
Golston: He'll look to get a big payday, but will be back