Bountygate Punishment for the Saints

CrustyRedskin · 03-22-2012, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Oh great now the Senate wants to investigate bountygate.
Dont they have more important things to do?

Senator calls hearing to examine NFL bounties – USATODAY.com

Yeah there really is nothing else going on in the world. Cant they tell Roger the Terrible has the NFL under control.

mbedner3420 · 03-22-2012, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Oh great now the Senate wants to investigate bountygate.
Dont they have more important things to do?

Senator calls hearing to examine NFL bounties – USATODAY.com

Obviously, the debt, iraq and afghan wars, federal budget, medicare, social security, and MLB performance enhancing drug issues can wait...

SmootSmack · 03-22-2012, 03:38 PM

I don't have reason to think Shockey posted a fake conversation. I also know that just about everyone else who could know that is saying anything has said unequivocally that Shockey was not the "snitch/whistleblower"

Also, what does it make Sapp if he's ratting out the guy that he believes ratted out the Saints? What's to gain there?

SkinzWin · 03-23-2012, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't have reason to think Shockey posted a fake conversation. I also know that just about everyone else who could know that is saying anything has said unequivocally that Shockey was not the "snitch/whistleblower"

Also, what does it make Sapp if he's ratting out the guy that he believes ratted out the Saints? What's to gain there?

Ratings and attention.

Lotus · 03-23-2012, 11:30 AM

I voted too harsh but only because I think that a year for Payton is really steep. I think a 4-8 games suspension for Payton would have sent a strong message (which was the point) by itself.

MTK · 03-23-2012, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

I voted too harsh but only because I think that a year for Payton is really steep. I think a 4-8 games suspension for Payton would have sent a strong message (which was the point) by itself.

At first I thought a year for Payton was pretty harsh too, but after hearing Goodell explain it I think it's justified.

Even if Payton didn't know what was going on (and let's be honest here it's pretty obvious he did) he's ultimately responsible for the actions and conduct of his team.

The Goat · 03-22-2012, 04:32 PM

Geez oh man! I voted the punishment was overly harsh and then read about how the Saints denied everything and kept the bounty system going, in which case the sentences are probably justified and deserved. This really puts a mark on Sean Payton's record IMO. I do wonder if he'll be fired before his suspension is over.

I wonder if the Saints FO knew Spags was gonna be interim HC when he was hired as DC...it seems like they should have seen this coming!

DynamiteRave · 03-22-2012, 10:04 PM

Man I wish we could see how people voted. I'd love to know who thought the punishment was too light. lol

Giantone · 03-23-2012, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Man I wish we could see how people voted. I'd love to know who thought the punishment was too light. lol

......I did but only becuase I think some players should be hit also,I also read where this is still on going so ...who knows.

CrustyRedskin · 03-23-2012, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Man I wish we could see how people voted. I'd love to know who thought the punishment was too light. lol

I bet 1 Facist, 3 Nihilists, and a many times over scorned female.

imho.

Alvin Walton · 03-23-2012, 07:15 AM

My Eli itches.

Ruhskins · 03-23-2012, 11:03 AM

I voted too harsh because how this compares to Spygate. Belicheat didn't get suspended, although the Pats did lose a first rounder (but this is nothing to the Pats). Still if Belicheat is not suspended at all for cheating, suspending Peyton is a bit harsh if you ask me.

NC_Skins · 03-23-2012, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I voted too harsh because how this compares to Spygate. Belicheat didn't get suspended, although the Pats did lose a first rounder (but this is nothing to the Pats). Still if Belicheat is not suspended at all for cheating, suspending Peyton is a bit harsh if you ask me.

Bill didn't lie about it when approached either. That's the difference. They acknowledged it, took their lumps and moved on. Payton and crew on the other hand denied it and lied for a couple years. Not the same situation.

SmootSmack · 03-23-2012, 12:28 PM

So the one part that I thought might be excessive turns out is not entirely accurate.

According to Mort, Payton's suspension is lifted day after the Super Bowl (not April 1, 2013) so he'll be around for senior week, combine, pro days, free agency, etc

Ruhskins · 03-23-2012, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Bill didn't lie about it when approached either. That's the difference. They acknowledged it, took their lumps and moved on. Payton and crew on the other hand denied it and lied for a couple years. Not the same situation.

Yeah, you have a point there. I still feel Belicheat believes he did nothing wrong. Oh well.

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03-22-2012, 03:38 PM	#3
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Bountygate Punishment for the Saints I don't have reason to think Shockey posted a fake conversation. I also know that just about everyone else who could know that is saying anything has said unequivocally that Shockey was not the "snitch/whistleblower" Also, what does it make Sapp if he's ratting out the guy that he believes ratted out the Saints? What's to gain there? __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

03-23-2012, 11:30 AM	#5
Lotus Fire Bruce NOW Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 11,434	Re: Bountygate Punishment for the Saints I voted too harsh but only because I think that a year for Payton is really steep. I think a 4-8 games suspension for Payton would have sent a strong message (which was the point) by itself. __________________ Bruce Allen when in charge alone: 4-12 (.250) Bruce Allen's overall Redskins record : 28-52 (.350) Vinny Cerrato's record when in charge alone: 52-65 (.444) Vinny's overall Redskins record: 62-82 (.430) We won more with Vinny

03-22-2012, 04:32 PM	#7
The Goat Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,662	Re: Bountygate Punishment for the Saints Geez oh man! I voted the punishment was overly harsh and then read about how the Saints denied everything and kept the bounty system going, in which case the sentences are probably justified and deserved. This really puts a mark on Sean Payton's record IMO. I do wonder if he'll be fired before his suspension is over. I wonder if the Saints FO knew Spags was gonna be interim HC when he was hired as DC...it seems like they should have seen this coming! __________________ 24-34

03-22-2012, 10:04 PM	#8
DynamiteRave Living Legend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Washington DC Age: 39 Posts: 16,867	Re: Bountygate Punishment for the Saints Man I wish we could see how people voted. I'd love to know who thought the punishment was too light. lol __________________ Establishment, establishment, you always know what's best. I've been a part of this message board for 17 years. Damn I'm old.

03-23-2012, 07:15 AM	#11
Alvin Walton Pro Bowl Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Holland, Michigan Posts: 5,741	Re: Bountygate Punishment for the Saints My Eli itches. __________________ REDSKINS FAN SINCE 1968

03-23-2012, 11:03 AM	#12
Ruhskins Living Legend Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 22,379	Re: Bountygate Punishment for the Saints I voted too harsh because how this compares to Spygate. Belicheat didn't get suspended, although the Pats did lose a first rounder (but this is nothing to the Pats). Still if Belicheat is not suspended at all for cheating, suspending Peyton is a bit harsh if you ask me. __________________ R.I.P. #21

03-23-2012, 12:28 PM	#14
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Bountygate Punishment for the Saints So the one part that I thought might be excessive turns out is not entirely accurate. According to Mort, Payton's suspension is lifted day after the Super Bowl (not April 1, 2013) so he'll be around for senior week, combine, pro days, free agency, etc __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

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