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Old 04-30-2012, 05:13 PM   #1
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Re: Kirk Cousins pick 4.7

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Maybe I read this wrong then, but it seemed like you said it's what the experts are saying

http://www.thewarpath.net/nfl-draft-...tml#post914088
Yeah, you are reading it wrong. I'm using what the experts said (Cousins' strength:pass progressions, a safe assumption I hope) to back up my opinion.

Man, I hope I worded THAT right. What are you actually discussing with me? ... Semantics?
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Old 04-30-2012, 06:48 PM   #2
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... like I said - Grossman's pass progressions are the worst by a veteran in the league. Whatever you want to call it - insight, approach, execution. He just doesn't do it well, whether or not he knows them are irrelevant -- apparently -- by his results on the field.
insight, approach and execution are all different
In the post I responded to you said insight its not irrelevant when that was your intial statement if you want to change the words you chose then you're changing the discussion

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he immediately brings in some insight that Rex Grossman and John Beck couldn't provide at the qb position.
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I'm not sure what you mean by insight, but Grossman undoubtedly knows the offense better then Cousins.
And maybe Cousins does bring more confidence, I'm hoping he can win the back-up spot outright and become the back-up as a rookie like Tyrod Taylor did last year.

But, I'm refering to actual on the field contributions either through offense, defense or special teams as a rotational or depth player.
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Going by the analysis by the ESPN experts, one insight that he provides that Grossman doesn't is progressions.

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Old 05-01-2012, 02:04 AM   #3
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insight, approach and execution are all different
In the post I responded to you said insight its not irrelevant when that was your intial statement if you want to change the words you chose then you're changing the discussion

All the of it is the same -- given the strengths of Cousins in the words of some of the NFL experts, he should contribute in making the redskins better than it has been whether it is in the meetings or backing up RGIII. Cousins should be able to contribute to the Redskins in ways that Rex Grossman can never do; let's just say I hope Cousins will be able to or he was a mistake to draft.

Try twisting the words in those last 2 sentences.

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Old 05-01-2012, 07:14 PM   #4
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....let's just say I hope Cousins will be able to or he was a mistake to draft...............Try twisting the words in those last 2 sentences.
I hope so too.
If Cousins reaches his potential he'll be a better back-up then Grossman and ulitmately be tradeable commodity.
I've said it before I hope Cousin can become the back-up QB this year, it unlikey that a rookie QB wins the back-up job but it happens.


BTW-I didn't twist your words you did that all by yourself
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Old 04-30-2012, 04:47 PM   #5
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Re: Kirk Cousins pick 4.7

I admittedly was stunned at how "normal Eric Mangini is. I hated, hated, hated, when ESPN hired him. But he's arguably been one of the better additions in a while, in my opinion.

Skip's argument was ridiculous
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Old 04-30-2012, 06:12 PM   #6
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I admittedly was stunned at how "normal Eric Mangini is. I hated, hated, hated, when ESPN hired him. But he's arguably been one of the better additions in a while, in my opinion.

Skip's argument was ridiculous
Mangini is surprisingly good on the air.

I can't believe ESPN has this video posted on the main NFL page, as if it's a legit debate. Skip's take is borderline irresponsible. He's nuts.
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Old 04-30-2012, 06:45 PM   #7
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Mangini is surprisingly good on the air.

I can't believe ESPN has this video posted on the main NFL page, as if it's a legit debate. Skip's take is borderline irresponsible. He's nuts.
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Old 04-30-2012, 04:51 PM   #8
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Old 04-30-2012, 04:55 PM   #9
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Old 04-30-2012, 05:05 PM   #10
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Re: Kirk Cousins pick 4.7

We have been talking RG III since the end of last season, so why not a little break about our future backup or even potential starter if something bad happens to Robert? RG III has been talked about for months, and the talk is quite old til we see him suit up and practice. Virtually every facet of us getting him and his abilities, etc has been talked about pretty much. The draft hype will die down hopefully in 2-3 weeks. The NFL draft has to be one of the most overhyped events in the history of sports. Only a fraction of these guys will be starters, much less make the 53 man roster, but they manage to lay it out over an entire weekend..
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Old 05-01-2012, 09:43 PM   #13
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Skip can't be a tool. Tools are useful. Skip on the other hand is not.
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:11 PM   #14
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This is a media driven story, I highly doubt this is a big concern amongst the fans. The only people trying to keep this story going work in Bristol and other similar places.
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:17 PM   #15
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Re: Kirk Cousins pick 4.7

first, if some people are arguing that cousins was a mistake cause he's too good... wtf? if we want a better football team, we need better players everywhere.

I understand if someone thinks we should have taken a massie or whoever there, but it's hard to argue that cousins is a bad value.

second, i don't think you ever draft anyone just to trade them. that's just a stupid idea and a great way to waste a pick. they got him because he was the BPA and a near term upgrade to grossman (with a little luck)... and how many teams have ended up using 2 QBs in a season? an awful lot of them, and it'd be better if our backup QB didn't stink.
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