Haskins released

[skinsfaninok]

I Don't think Dranold is as bad as he has looked.. That team is god awful, if you can get him for a 5th I say do it

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I Don't think Dranold is as bad as he has looked.. That team is god awful, if you can get him for a 5th I say do it

It's going to be interesting to see what the Jets do. I see no reason to trade him really - not for what they would likely get in return. He's going to cost them almost nothing for the next three years, in terms of the QB position. I think the consensus across the league is that Darnold is not the problem there. They have a ton of cap space, and the #2 pick. With a nice draft and a few FA additions, they could likely turn that ship around pretty quickly with Darnold.

[AnonEmouse]

If we have to lose someone with the potential to get a good pick or two then I'd look to trade Matt I. I'd rather keep him, but we've been without him most of the season and done well enough without. Those saying he offers us pass rush from the interior should remember we need solid run D in this division facing 2 if not 3 of the better RBs in the league. Or current starting 4 seem to do pretty week at generating pass rush already.

But yes, I agree that chasing a big name FA with their incumbent salary needs is likely to do us more harm than good. We've got a 3-5 year window to dominate this division with what we already have in place, let alone 2021 additions; no need to mortgage the future for 1-2 years with a vet that may actually not pan out.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by AnonEmouse

If we have to lose someone with the potential to get a good pick or two then I'd look to trade Matt I. I'd rather keep him, but we've been without him most of the season and done well enough without. Those saying he offers us pass rush from the interior should remember we need solid run D in this division facing 2 if not 3 of the better RBs in the league. Or current starting 4 seem to do pretty week at generating pass rush already.

But yes, I agree that chasing a big name FA with their incumbent salary needs is likely to do us more harm than good. We've got a 3-5 year window to dominate this division with what we already have in place, let alone 2021 additions; no need to mortgage the future for 1-2 years with a vet that may actually not pan out.

If Heinicke plays well this week (assuming Alex doesn't play), then that's enough for me to try to bring him back next year to compete. Then I'm more inclined to pick up a free agent QB AND draft a QB. But I don't want to trade any of our D-linemen or draft picks for an aging - beat up Stafford. I don't want to take my chances with a QB coming off a bad injury (i.e. Dak or K Allen). There's only a couple FA QBs I would entertain...No thanks to Rivers, Trubisky, C McCoy, Brissett, Dalton, Newton etc.

Bottom line for me - don't trade any D-linemen, keep all the draft picks (unless there's a chance to maneuver a little to get your future QB in the draft), start to extend some contracts for guys that will be the core of this team moving forward, upgrade the QB, Oline, WR, TE, and LB positions via free agency, bring back Heinicke, draft your future QB then BPA in the draft, and win the SB.

[MTK]

Darnold has enough of a resume to see that he's nothing special. Less than 60% completions, takes a lot of sacks, seems to play with his hair on fire with little pocket presence a lot of the time. That's not from me that's from a Jets fan buddy of mine.

[jamf]

Every 4-5 years we start talking about culture change and Snyder finally stepping away.
IT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN!
Never has and never will!
Snyder enjoys being involved more than winning.

This will be Snyder on draft day making our first and second round picks.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by jamf

Every 4-5 years we start talking about culture change and Snyder finally stepping away.
IT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN!
Never has and never will!
Snyder enjoys being involved more than winning.

This will be Snyder on draft day making our first and second round picks.

Jamf stop killing my hope!

[Burgold]

Some names are floating around-Trabinski[maybe?]Darnold[maybe?]we need a young vet[five year or less]for the long haul...the kid from Philly[can he stay healthy?]word on the street says that Carolina might want Haskins[good luck with that]but that's their problem.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Maybe Haskins should wait it out to see if Urban Meyer actually joins the NFL this offseason, which looks like a real possibility. Lions, Falcons, & Jaguars are reportedly interested in Meyer or at least are said to be potential landing spots along with several other teams. That might be Haskins' best bet to redeem himself. If Meyer won't take him, then that will tell you all you need to know.

[rocnrik]

I would absolutely give a 19-32 first round pick for Stafford.. he is 32 and could play at high level for 4-5 years or longer .. as far as a package I’m not sure i would give next years number one also ... this team is a Qb and Three players away from being legit.. another botched First round Can’t miss QB will sit us back years ... as far as injury goes with Stafford look what happened to Burrow..at least make a attempt .. what do is we offer for Cooper last year ?? I know no picks were involved but his price was steep ..I hope we at least get in the mix on trying to get Matt!

[Chief X_Phackter]

I hope Stafford / Ryan / Rivers aren't even on their radar.

[rocnrik]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I hope Stafford / Ryan / Rivers aren't even on their radar.

Okay ... so to get a QB in the draft we will have to move up which will require draft picks or players ... we will need to move from 19th( if we win Sunday) to top 6 to land a top qb prospect .. and you truly believe that a kid out of college will come in here and do what a Matt Stafford can do?? Not every kid is gonna be Pat M.. I agree about Rivers .. but I will get you dollars to donuts that Matt Stafford if he gets on the right team can lead them to a super bowl .. he will most likely end up in San Francisco.. we better get this right

[AnonEmouse]

If you're a good scouting/coaching staff everyone with any talent or potential is on your radar, until they are ruled out.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by AnonEmouse

If you're a good scouting/coaching staff everyone with any talent or potential is on your radar, until they are ruled out.

Yeah, but if you're a good scouting/coaching staff, hopefully you also have a plan that involves getting younger and building something sustainable for a long time, rather than giving away pieces and picks and tying up 50+ million in the QB room next year.

[rocnrik]

We got 3-4 years to get the Offense where the D allready is ... we currently have the 4th ranked D .. and still could use a few players there ...the fastest way to get our Offense into top 10 is a proven Vet... not some kid like Haskins who we wasted a 15th overall pick on ... even RGiii did not pan out .. look how many high pick Rookie QBs are just plain bad ... I would rather know what I’m getting ..