Cowboys cut T.O.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Teams can police themselves. A la Gruden kicking Keyshwan Johnson off the Bucs, Andy Reid kicking TO off the Eagles, Steve Smith getting suspended two games for putting a dent in Ken Lucas' face, etc.

True, but I bet someone is going to pick him up and give him a good contract. Initially when all these teams came out and said no to him, I was hoping that it would continue like that and he would eventually sign somewhere for the vet min. Now that there are apparently teams interested in him, I bet Rosenhaus will find a team to give him a good contract.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

True, but I bet someone is going to pick him up and give him a good contract. Initially when all these teams came out and said no to him, I was hoping that it would continue like that and he would eventually sign somewhere for the vet min. Now that there are apparently teams interested in him, I bet Rosenhaus will find a team to give him a good contract.

I think he'd retire before he'd play for the vet min.

[44ever]

Why should he play for vet-min? He's still one of the best WR's in the league. I hope he finds a team outside of the NFC East. And continues his career.From a fan of Football in general. I enjoy watching TO play.

[mredskins]

^ I agree much like WWE the NFL needs it's balance of faces and heels in order to make the story lines flow.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by 44ever

Why should he play for vet-min? He's still one of the best WR's in the league. I hope he finds a team outside of the NFC East. And continues his career.From a fan of Football in general. I enjoy watching TO play.

Is Arena Football still in business?

[Zerohero]

Originally Posted by 44ever

Why should he play for vet-min? He's still one of the best WR's in the league. I hope he finds a team outside of the NFC East. And continues his career.From a fan of Football in general. I enjoy watching TO play.

As a fan of football, i hope T.O. and destructive players like him never play another down.

[gw0103]

While being an above average receiver, T.O. made his own bed by alienating
himself from his coaches and team.... Maybe a hard edged system would help
him re-ignite his career.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by Zerohero

As a fan of football, i hope T.O. and destructive players like him never play another down.

Maybe they will let girls play soon. I've never seen "destructive behaviour" from TO. Just a guy with a desire to play and win. There are a lot worse players on the field with a more questionable character than TO. Where ever he goes, that team will be better. Payton and TO would be extreamly dangerous. And exciting. As long as he isn't in our lockeroom. I don't care. He's a great football player and very entertaining

[44ever]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Is Arena Football still in business?

I didn't ask for any lip 53

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by 44ever

Maybe they will let girls play soon. I've never seen "destructive behaviour" from TO. Just a guy with a desire to play and win. There are a lot worse players on the field with a more questionable character than TO. Where ever he goes, that team will be better. Payton and TO would be extreamly dangerous. And exciting. As long as he isn't in our lockeroom. I don't care. He's a great football player and very entertaining

What TO does that is destructive, and it is subtle, is he builds a fast tight camaraderie with the QB and is vocal in his praise at first. This is why he is usually great in his first year. But then, over the next years, rather than being team oriented he becomes self oriented, and thinks he is being excluded. Because of the tightness at first a core group will start seeing it from his point of view (this year it was several receivers and one or 2 defensive guys) and questioning the QB/Coach's commitment to winning (if they aren't getting him the ball they must not be committed to winning). and in the last year(s), his core group really starts to focus around him and his struggles. And by then the distraction is full blown. Also, in the final years the media acts as an enhancer and speeds up the process.

Of course that is just a guess and i could be way off base

[44ever]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

What TO does that is destructive, and it is subtle, is he builds a fast tight camaraderie with the QB and is vocal in his praise at first. This is why he is usually great in his first year. But then, over the next years, rather than being team oriented he becomes self oriented, and thinks he is being excluded. Because of the tightness at first a core group will start seeing it from his point of view (this year it was several receivers and one or 2 defensive guys) and questioning the QB/Coach's commitment to winning (if they aren't getting him the ball they must not be committed to winning). and in the last year(s), his core group really starts to focus around him and his struggles. And by then the distraction is full blown. Also, in the final years the media acts as an enhancer and speeds up the process.

Of course that is just a guess and i could be way off base

I think your on the right track CRedskinsRule, But I think JJ also liked the idea of signing TO because of his character and helped fuel the flames. He enjoyed the attention TO brought to the Cowboys and has admitted the attention is good for the team. But because of the late season disaster. Which I blame entirely on Romo. He and his team used TO as a scapegoat. IMO.

Im quoting myself here from a earlier post:

Owens caught more touchdown passes than any NFL receiver over the last three years and was a big part of Tony Romo's emergence from an unknown backup to a starlet-dating Pro Bowl quarterback with a $67 million contract.

The Romo-Owens relationship appeared to fray late this past season, with Owens upset about everything from game plans to pass distribution. He had 213 yards in one game, but cracked 100 yards in only one other game, the otherwise forgettable finale.

"I know it takes a lot of pressure off Romo," Hurd said. "A guy like him demands the ball and you want to get him the ball. Now he can look at all of us and see which one is open on any given play. ... I don't think that was a problem. That's just what could and might start happening."

Jones was slow to go along. Just a few weeks ago, he indicated Owens wasn't going anywhere and firmly said the idea of locker-room problems were "a figment of the result. You didn't hear about those things when we were winning."

Next year is Romo's turn if his play does'nt prove it was TO's fault. IMO

When Romo's teamates say now that TO is gone ''Now he can look at all of us and see which one is open on any given play. ... I don't think that was a problem. That could and might start happening'' I think thats saying a lot about where the blame lands and how much confidence they have in Romo.

When JJ said "You didn't hear about those things when we were winning" says a lot about how much of this BS about TO was manufactured by the media and guys on the team afraid of losing there jobs.

Cutting TO was the easy answer and everyone agrees with it. "OF COURSE"

I can be way off here. But probably not to far. IMO

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by 44ever

When Romo's teamates say now that TO is gone ''that could and might start happening'' I think thats saying a lot about where the blame lands and how much confidence they have in Romo.

When JJ said "You didn't hear about those things when we were winning" says a lot about how much of this BS about TO was manufactured by the media and guys on the team afraid of losing there jobs.

Cutting TO was the easy answer and everyone agrees with it. "OF COURSE"

I can be way off here. But probably not to far. IMO

I didn't mean to imply that Dallas' demise (that sounds so good whenever I hear it) was only about TO. Just that he has this pattern he follows when he goes to teams. Next year will be all about Romo. He still has a goto guy in Roy Williams and good running backs. If he thinks he can lead a team and still say its not important when they lose a blowout that was basically a playoff game, I doubt he will succeed either.

And to JJs comment, I think it just shows either a) how out of touch he is becoming or b) how well he tries to spin things. TO was a media story the whole time, and every little incident brought the media in saying "This is TO's cancer" and players definitely sided one way or the other.

44 you also said that he and Peyton would be extremely dangerous, and I think you are dead on that one. that is the one team I think he would absolutely lift to the SB next year. And after a SB win, who knows how it would go. Imagine if TO and McNabb HAD won that SB, do you think they would have had a melt down? I am not so sure. And to be clear I think the SB loss was definitely on McNabb not TO.
Wow I am rambling now...

[44ever]

^ Ha Ha. Not much else to talk about right now. Anyway it will be interesting as always.

[SkinzzFan]

I hope to God we don't pick him up, but let's face it someone will. He may not be the receiver he used to be but he's still better than most of the WRs in the league right now. Plus he'll put fans in the seats (not really a problem in the NFL) and his merchandise will sell. Point being he's still one of the faces of the NFL like it or not. Just look at all the responses to this thread and watch NFL Network or ESPN...he's always the story.

I think a contender would be "wise" to sign him to a 1 year deal (with individual and team incentives). He's proven to be a pretty good citizen in his first year with a new team and being his age he really wants a championship.

HAIL!!

[44ever]

Originally Posted by SkinzzFan

I hope to God we don't pick him up, but let's face it someone will. He may not be the receiver he used to be but he's still better than most of the WRs in the league right now. Plus he'll put fans in the seats (not really a problem in the NFL) and his merchandise will sell. Point being he's still one of the faces of the NFL like it or not. Just look at all the responses to this thread and watch NFL Network or ESPN...he's always the story.

I think a contender would be "wise" to sign him to a 1 year deal (with individual and team incentives). He's proven to be a pretty good citizen in his first year with a new team and being his age he really wants a championship.

HAIL!!

Honest post SkinzzFan, If I were the Colts I would sign him to a 2-3 year deal. At his age and with the chance for a SB. I dont think he would have much problem with the deal. Win Win for both. IMO