Arizona's New Immigration Law

[jdlea]

nevermind

[joethiesmanfan]

Joe freaking deadskin the teachers rectum.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

Joe freaking deadskin the teachers rectum.

Say what?

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Say what?

I'm sorry Smoot.

[dmek25]

???????

[mlmpetert]

I just looked ole Annandale HS up in wiki. It says only 72% of the students are proficent in english. 72% in a high school, not elementry or middle school, High School!

Annandale High School - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Go Atoms!

[mlmpetert]

Damn Dick Adams retired!!! How did no one tell me about this????

Annandale football Coach Dick Adams steps down - washingtonpost.com

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Damn Dick Adams retired!!! How did no one tell me about this????

Annandale football Coach Dick Adams steps down - washingtonpost.com

i definitley told you he is tired of parents pising and moaning cause he yells at their kids, and as far as the talent coming through well...

[SBXVII]

Something has to be done. Also keep in mind how the Hispanic/Latino immigrants must feel who came here legally? I have spoken with many who actually don't feel sorry for their brethren who came illegally. The individuals who came legally were probably waiting on a list for about 10 yrs to be allowed into the US. The illegals simply walked in not carring. Then the legal ones have to wait 5-10 yrs plus take a test to become citizens.

I've seen the annimosity from the Latino/Hispanic culter also. Basically it's not fair if one group of people has to follow the rules and the Gov. looks the other way at another group of people.

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Something has to be done. Also keep in mind how the Hispanic/Latino immigrants must feel who came here legally? I have spoken with many who actually don't feel sorry for their brethren who came illegally. The individuals who came legally were probably waiting on a list for about 10 yrs to be allowed into the US. The illegals simply walked in not carring. Then the legal ones have to wait 5-10 yrs plus take a test to become citizens.

I've seen the annimosity from the Latino/Hispanic culter also. Basically it's not fair if one group of people has to follow the rules and the Gov. looks the other way at another group of people.

Who said that the constitution was an English document. A bunch of fugitives, criminals, and religious extremists from England running around trying to mimic the French Revolution. Going to California complaining about Mexicans is like going to Hawaii complaining about Hawaiians. We do have an English part of the country it's called New England. Preserving English culture is not being a patriot. England burned the freaking white house down. In Amercian culture we have incorporated lots of different types of talent to build this empire. If Amercia was all about being English why did they go all the way acroos the ocean to pick up Africans to teach them how to farm rice and cotton? (proof: where were the rice and cotton pantations in England? didn't have any it's not English culture). What made Amercia rich? Surely wasn't blood pie.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

Who said that the constitution was an English document. A bunch of fugitives, criminals, and religious extremists from England running around trying to mimic the French Revolution.

I don't think many people would argue the Constitution didn't derive from the Magna Carta, and the effects of English history.

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

and the Going to California complaining about Mexicans is like going to Hawaii complaining about Hawaiians. We do have an English part of the country it's called New England. Preserving English culture is not being a patriot. England burned the freaking white house down. In Amercian culture we have incorporated lots of different types of talent to build this empire. If Amercia was all about being English why did they go all the way acroos the ocean to pick up Africans to teach them how to farm rice and cotton? (proof: where were the rice and cotton pantations in England? didn't have any it's not English culture). What made Amercia rich? Surely wasn't blood pie.

Did Africans from the ivory coast/liberia farm rice and cotton? I ask because I did not know that. Looking online, cotton and rice increased the slave trade due to the need for cheap labor not instructions on farming cotton per se.

Interesting reads on this topic include:

Slavery in America
and

Plantation System of the South: Information from Answers.com
All that said, your point of incorporating a lot of cultures (melting pot) is true but we didn't succeed as a country by setting up islands of nationalities (didn't work well in Czechoslovakia either), but by the individual nationalities submitting to an identity as a United States citizen.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I don't think many people would argue the Constitution didn't derive from the Magna Carta, and the effects of English history.

Did Africans from the ivory coast/liberia farm rice and cotton? I ask because I did not know that. Looking online, cotton and rice increased the slave trade due to the need for cheap labor not instructions on farming cotton per se.

Interesting reads on this topic include:

Slavery in America
and

Plantation System of the South: Information from Answers.com
All that said, your point of incorporating a lot of cultures (melting pot) is true but we didn't succeed as a country by setting up islands of nationalities (didn't work well in Czechoslovakia either), but by the individual nationalities submitting to an identity as a United States citizen.

I for one, am stunned and impressed that the internet (and those who know how to use it) still find joethiesmanfan's (who i just realized, doesn't even have Thiesmann spelled correctly) statements falsifiable.

It's almost like a desperate attempt for the unproveable, only to later be disproven.

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I for one, am stunned and impressed that the internet (and those who know how to use it) still find joethiesmanfan's (who i just realized, doesn't even have Thiesmann spelled correctly) statements falsifiable.

It's almost like a desperate attempt for the unproveable, only to later be disproven.

GTRIPP that's the point. An identity as a US citizen does not have to mean English speaking caucasians. Te term white didn't always apply to all caucasians. There was a time when Irish were not considered white in America. This is Amercia, we incorporated alot of Mexico into our territory. It's silly to feel threatened by what makes America different than Europe. It's also the reason America is much more powerful and richer than Europe.

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I for one, am stunned and impressed that the internet (and those who know how to use it) still find joethiesmanfan's (who i just realized, doesn't even have Thiesmann spelled correctly) statements falsifiable.

It's almost like a desperate attempt for the unproveable, only to later be disproven.

So where were the English cotton and rice plantations? Actually, it is Senegal where the links between South Carolina and Africa exist to this day. Why not use endentured servants from England, maybe because they didn't know how to "make that money". I have got to give credit to Europe from going from the poorest to the richest continent. Time is fluent, and we are witnessing a European downgrade at the hands of the Arabs and Chinese as we speak. But America is not Europe we don't have Europe's problems.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

Who said that the constitution was an English document. A bunch of fugitives, criminals, and religious extremists from England running around trying to mimic the French Revolution. Going to California complaining about Mexicans is like going to Hawaii complaining about Hawaiians. We do have an English part of the country it's called New England. Preserving English culture is not being a patriot. England burned the freaking white house down. In Amercian culture we have incorporated lots of different types of talent to build this empire. If Amercia was all about being English why did they go all the way acroos the ocean to pick up Africans to teach them how to farm rice and cotton? (proof: where were the rice and cotton pantations in England? didn't have any it's not English culture). What made Amercia rich? Surely wasn't blood pie.

Wow, Ok, England truly is at fault here though. Unless you don't know your history? The Americans were not the first to run to Africa and pick up slaves. To be honest with you the Arabs started the African slave issue and trade. When England arrived in the Middle East and wanted to trade alcohol for something the only thing the Arabs wanted to trade was the slaves. England had to figure out what to do with a boat load of slaves. So they decided to try to bring them to the America's (all up and down the Eastern coast to include South America) and trade them for our wheat and cotton. Yes the farmers excepted this and used the slaves to help work the fields and built bigger fields due to all the hands he had working the fields.

You do realize even after Lincoln freed the southern slaves that the northern slaves were not free? Lincoln hoped by freeing the slaves it would cause the Africans to rise up and fight against the Rebs. Unfortunatly that didn't happen and many of slaves joined the south in fighting for the southern rights.

You speak of New Hamshire yet they were one of the states that banned the freed Africans. Even made a law to have them hanged.

Also why was it that 10 to 20 yrs after America freed their slaves America was still shipping slaves to South America? Then when America banned the practice of shipping slaves, England continued to pick up and ship for another 10 to 20 yrs? England is not innocent in their cause and effect. Neither is the Northern States. I'm so amazed at how people get up in arms about the Southern flag but the American flag was the one flying when slavery started. The American flag was flying when only the southern slaves were freed, not all slaves. It was the American flag that flew on American ships who continued to ship Africans. Plus it was the American flag that allowed segrigation and racism. Seperate bathrooms, schools, stores, restaruants...etc. all under the American flag.

Instead of hating the Rebel flag, how about hating the bigots? Like the KKK who, guess what, also fly the American flag.