What's your take on our coaching?

[GTripp0012]

Hey, remember the Spurrier era? The worst head coach in team history?

The Redskins had better offenses and better teams under Spurrier in both years than Mike Shanahan has.

So I'm pretty shocked that 71% of us don't think his seat should be getting hot.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Hey, remember the Spurrier era? The worst head coach in team history?

The Redskins had better offenses and better teams under Spurrier in both years than Mike Shanahan has.

So I'm pretty shocked that 71% of us don't think his seat should be getting hot.

I agree. I like a few of the individual pieces that Shanny has added to the team (Kerrigan, Trent Williams to name a few), but the overall team performance has been pretty dismal. Plus he's wiffed BIG time with his QB decisions. Doesn't speak very well of you as a HC when you've bungled the most important position on the field numerous times in less than 2 full seasons.

I was never sold on Shanny coming here, and I'm even less sold now than I was the day he was hired. I know things take time and he wasn't coming into an ideal situation by any means, but he's not really doing a lot on a weekly basis to inspire any confidence moving forward. The last few weeks we haven't even looked competitive.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I agree. I like a few of the individual pieces that Shanny has added to the team (Kerrigan, Trent Williams to name a few), but the overall team performance has been pretty dismal. Plus he's wiffed BIG time with his QB decisions. Doesn't speak very well of you as a HC when you've bungled the most important position on the field numerous times in less than 2 full seasons.

I was never sold on Shanny coming here, and I'm even less sold now than I was the day he was hired. I know things take time and he wasn't coming into an ideal situation by any means, but he's not really doing a lot on a weekly basis to inspire any confidence moving forward. The last few weeks we haven't even looked competitive.

Completely agree here. I was so hoping I was wrong (still do) about Shanny after the first few games, but he's missed it three times in a row regarding the QB position and deserves some major heat over his mishandling/mis-managing the position.

Unless John Beck provides a major spark and exceeds expectations, I don't know where the team goes from here.

[SmootSmack]

The Spurrier era was perhaps the biggest mess I've seen in all my years "in the biz". What's happening now really doesn't compare in my opinion.

Mike Shanahan wasn't my first choice, probably not even my second. But I think you don't quit on him. Not yet at least. I wish we had gotten a QB this past year. And maybe the lockout impacted that decision not to go for one. I mean I know it did, just don't know to what extent. However, I don't feel like Shanahan and Allen and co. are just sitting around twiddling their thumbs in lieu of getting a QB. We are making other personnel moves that I believe will benefit us once we get a QB...which hopefully will be in April 2012...unless Crompton's our guy! (that one's for Lotus)

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I was never sold on Shanny coming here, and I'm even less sold now than I was the day he was hired.

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Mike Shanahan wasn't my first choice, probably not even my second.

Okay, just curious: Who did you guys want? Because I don't remember the choices being that plentiful. And now I'm looking around and wondering who would come here if The Crazies actually got their way and Shanahan either resigned or was fired?

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Okay, just curious: Who did you guys want? Because I don't remember the choices being that plentiful. And now I'm looking around and wondering who would come here if The Crazies actually got their way and Shanahan either resigned or was fired?

For me it wasn't who we passed on, it was more that it was just another Snyder-type hire. Bring in another older, flashy re-tread with past accolades... It's just not how winning happens in today's NFL...

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by GMScud

For me it wasn't who we passed on, it was more that it was just another Snyder-type hire. Bring in another older, flashy re-tread with past accolades... It's just not how winning happens in today's NFL...

It is all about Snyder and marketing. The guy is a genius. EVen when his teams suck, he can get the fans to keep coming back for more. I agree with your comment for the most part about hiring Shanny in the first place. He needed to court one of the best OCs or DCs in the game, preferably younger, like when they got Norv. A young guy will be all fired up, and eager to win and prove himself. Shanny might just be there to collect a paycheck and get the hell out of town when the shit hits the fan. At this point he is even going to have to throw his son under the bus if he wants to truly retain his position in the not to distant future. I am not so sure he is going to do that. Do you really think Snyder isn't going to notice the empty seats come December if this situation isn't fixed? IF we only win a couple more games this season, but look like a real football team I have no problem keeping him around for his contract, but damn, the team looks in total disarray like it was under Zorn, and you are paying this bum how much? Shanny and co need to be put on the hot seat. They need to be held accountable. This is fast becoming a joke. Strike that, it is a joke, a very bad one.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

It is all about Snyder and marketing. The guy is a genius. EVen when his teams suck, he can get the fans to keep coming back for more. I agree with your comment for the most part about hiring Shanny in the first place. He needed to court one of the best OCs or DCs in the game, preferably younger, like when they got Norv. A young guy will be all fired up, and eager to win and prove himself. Shanny might just be there to collect a paycheck and get the hell out of town when the shit hits the fan. At this point he is even going to have to throw his son under the bus if he wants to truly retain his position in the not to distant future. I am not so sure he is going to do that. Do you really think Snyder isn't going to notice the empty seats come December if this situation isn't fixed? IF we only win a couple more games this season, but look like a real football team I have no problem keeping him around for his contract, but damn, the team looks in total disarray like it was under Zorn, and you are paying this bum how much? Shanny and co need to be put on the hot seat. They need to be held accountable. This is fast becoming a joke. Strike that, it is a joke, a very bad one.

As far as Kyle goes- I think if he is as big of a problem as he appears to possibly be right now, you've got wonder if nepotism will end up really hurting this team. The reason I say that is because, if your Daddy fires you, are you ever going to land another impactful job in the NFL? He would forever be the guy who was so bad that his own father kicked him to the curb.... Is Mike really going to do that to his son? I doubt it.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

It is all about Snyder and marketing. The guy is a genius. EVen when his teams suck, he can get the fans to keep coming back for more. I agree with your comment for the most part about hiring Shanny in the first place. He needed to court one of the best OCs or DCs in the game, preferably younger, like when they got Norv. A young guy will be all fired up, and eager to win and prove himself. Shanny might just be there to collect a paycheck and get the hell out of town when the shit hits the fan. At this point he is even going to have to throw his son under the bus if he wants to truly retain his position in the not to distant future. I am not so sure he is going to do that. Do you really think Snyder isn't going to notice the empty seats come December if this situation isn't fixed? IF we only win a couple more games this season, but look like a real football team I have no problem keeping him around for his contract, but damn, the team looks in total disarray like it was under Zorn, and you are paying this bum how much? Shanny and co need to be put on the hot seat. They need to be held accountable. This is fast becoming a joke. Strike that, it is a joke, a very bad one.

I believe the number is $7M per...

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Okay, just curious: Who did you guys want? Because I don't remember the choices being that plentiful. And now I'm looking around and wondering who would come here if The Crazies actually got their way and Shanahan either resigned or was fired?

Kyle Shanahan...No actually I really thought Brian Billick was going to be the guy here, though he's not necessarily who I wanted.

I believe I had mostly said Brian Schottenheimer (among some other choices). I know. I know. Someone else who's a no one other than his last name. From what I've observed (get more Jets news and info up here than I do most other teams) I think he's going to be a very good head coach. Has good leadership, organizational skills.

But we got what we got. Let's make the best of it.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I wish we had gotten a QB this past year. And maybe the lockout impacted that decision not to go for one.

Which QB should they have gone after? Young? (didn't want to come here) Hasslebeck? Injured prone QB with 0 experience in the system. You think he would have held up with that line yesterday?


What QB should we have plucked out of the imaginary QB tree? I keep hearing people say this, but if there isn't anything available, and you feel there aren't any QBs worthy of our draft spot, what do you propose he do?


Let's not even forget the whole lockout up till training camp and the ton of holes this team had prior to the draft and still has.

Even if he did draft a QB at our spot, it means we don't get all those extra picks and have even a worse team than what we have now. Imagine that. Also, would you want your rookie QB sitting behind that line in Buffalo? Kid's confidence would have been shattered, if not his arm.

[Ruhskins]

Come on Kyle Shanahan, I want to see you do this sometime this season...

Dallas Cowboys D-coordinator Rob Ryan says loss is 'all on me' - ESPN Dallas

I kid of course...or am I? I must say, seeing Dallas get whopped got me through this terrible loss. Although, I am not looking forward to that game against the Iggles later in the season. Bleh.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Come on Kyle Shanahan, I want to see you do this sometime this season...

Dallas Cowboys D-coordinator Rob Ryan says loss is 'all on me' - ESPN Dallas

I kid of course...or am I? I must say, seeing Dallas get whopped got me through this terrible loss. Although, I am not looking forward to that game against the Iggles later in the season. Bleh.

These guys need to learn from Jose Mourinho (coach of Real Madrid) and start saying messed up controversial statements if they really want to take the spotlight off their players after a tough loss. These one line statements saying blame me are starting to go almost unnoticed

Unicef unmoved by José Mourinho's accusations over referees' Barça bias | Football | guardian.co.uk

Mourinho 'disgusted to live in this world' | Football - Soccer | Fox Sports



Apparently he does all of this to take the attention away from the players after tough losses.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Come on Kyle Shanahan, I want to see you do this sometime this season...

Dallas Cowboys D-coordinator Rob Ryan says loss is 'all on me' - ESPN Dallas

I kid of course...or am I? I must say, seeing Dallas get whopped got me through this terrible loss. Although, I am not looking forward to that game against the Iggles later in the season. Bleh.

Rob Ryan just needs to STFU. I've never seen an assistant coach talk so much. Garrett needs to tell him to put a muzzle on it.

[The Goat]

Rob seems like a stand-up guy at least.