2012 QB Class

[IrMitchell]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

I'm still monitoring how St. Louis and Indy do this year. I heard from Michael Lombardi that if the Colts got the number one pick, and Peyton checks out as healthy, the colts would trade it. I know that if the Rams got the number one pick, they wouldn't take Andrew. The teams to worry about are the Cardinals and Dolphins. I really feel that we have a decent (25-45%) chance of getting Andrew Luck. I'd trade 2 firsts for him in a heartbeat.

We are absolutely not going to get Andrew Luck.. Let's face that right now.

I want Barkley, and there are times when I find him more impressive.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by IrMitchell

We are absolutely not going to get Andrew Luck.. Let's face that right now.

I want Barkley, and there are times when I find him more impressive.

I wouldn't be so sure of that. Like I said if those 2 teams, Rams or Colts, get the first overall pick, don't be surprised if we make a trade with them. Ram's especially.

[IrMitchell]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

I wouldn't be so sure of that. Like I said if those 2 teams, Rams or Colts, get the first overall pick, don't be surprised if we make a trade with them. Ram's especially.

I'm not so sure we have the management that would make a move like that. This year I've been following college ball more closely than the NFL (outside of the Skins) knowing our future quarterback is playing out there somewhere.. and I'll say it again Matt Barkley is a future winner.. Sure he's not the best quarterback in the draft, but we don't have that benefit.

If we give up '12, '13 firsts and some extra picks for Luck and he doesn't succeed right away, there is NO young help coming in for two full years.. That's rough for a team that hasn't even found a #2 receiver yet.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by IrMitchell

We are absolutely not going to get Andrew Luck.. Let's face that right now.

I want Barkley, and there are times when I find him more impressive.

If I was the skins, I would find a way to make a trade and try to get him (Barkley) somehow.

[IrMitchell]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

If I was the skins, I would find a way to make a trade and try to get him (Barkley) somehow.

Honestly, I'm hoping we just finish as a top 6ish team.
I know it's still too early to give up, but I think the best thing that could happen to the Redskins is continue to suck with a solid defense and look for bigger things next year, WITH a quarterback.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by IrMitchell

Honestly, I'm hoping we just finish as a top 6ish team.
I know it's still too early to give up, but I think the best thing that could happen to the Redskins is continue to suck with a solid defense and look for bigger things next year, WITH a quarterback.

I kind of agree, I really want Barkley since Luck will be gone.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

I'm still monitoring how St. Louis and Indy do this year. I heard from Michael Lombardi that if the Colts got the number one pick, and Peyton checks out as healthy, the colts would trade it. I know that if the Rams got the number one pick, they wouldn't take Andrew. The teams to worry about are the Cardinals and Dolphins. I really feel that we have a decent (25-45%) chance of getting Andrew Luck. I'd trade 2 firsts for him in a heartbeat.

You're offering $50,000 for a $100,000 car.

[Dirtbag59]

I'm going to champion my new realistic sleeper prospect

Kirk Cousins
6'3, 210 pounds | Quarterback | Michigan State
Kirk Cousins Stats, News, Videos, Pictures, Bio - Michigan State Spartans - ESPN

First word: Cousins joins a long list of promising quarterback prospects and is a sleeper pick of many different evaluators. The fact that he has played against good Big 10 competition and has experience undercenter makes him an attractive prospect. He has an opportunity to really improve his stock with a solid season.

There is a lot to like about Cousins from his good arm strength to his on field leadership. The ball jumps out of his hand and arrives to his target with zip. There is no doubt that he can make all the necessary NFL throws. His ball placement and accuracy is good on all levels. He can read a defense and is able to locate secondary targets. Cousins has good anticipation which allows him to avoid turnovers and batted balls.

While Cousins has a lot of positives there are still some significant concerns. His technique is less than ideal which impacts the delivery of the football. Cousins doesn't step into his throws often throwing off of his back foot resulting in less power. He can get away with this in college but in the NFL with tighter passing windows he could struggle to complete passes. Cousins also doesn't set his body and feet towards his target impacting his accuracy. While he is accurate improved footwork will only make him better.

Overall, Cousins has enough talent and potential to warrant the attention he is receiving. He needs a productive season while leading Michigan State to a few more wins. Improving his technique and footwork will only help his draft stock.

Bold statement: Kirk Cousins will be a 2nd round pick in 2012

Games viewed: Wisconsin ('10), Iowa ('10), Michigan ('10), Penn State ('10)
Notes:

Cousins is a decent athlete with the ability to escape the rush

Michigan State has a pro style offense that likes to feature play action

His experience and success in the Michigan State offense is a positive

He possesses a strong arm generating good zip on passes to all levels

Cousins keeps his eyes down the field when faced with pressure

As he drops back he keeps the ball above his breast plate avoiding wasted motions

He has a quick release that allows him to get the ball out on time

His accuracy is good on all levels as he leads his targets and also has the touch to drop in a bucket pass
The ball jumps out of his hands and arrives to his target on a line

He is able to go through his progressions and find the open man and secondary targets

Cousins needs to improve his technique as he often throws off his back foot and doesn't align his feet and body towards the target

He struggles to get rid of the football as he holds the ball to long and often takes sacks

Cousins has a tendency to force the ball when faced with pressure resulting in turnovers

[Dirtbag59]

Tannenhill looks like a classic elder Shanahan QB. Only problem I have is his release is a little sloppy and the offense has to many curls and screens for my taste.


And of course it took Ryan less then 2 minutes to do what Alabama couldn't do in 60 plus. Score a TD against LSU

[IrMitchell]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Tannenhill looks like a classic elder Shanahan QB. Only problem I have is his release is a little sloppy and the offense has to many curls and screens for my taste.


And of course it took Ryan less then 2 minutes to do what Alabama couldn't do in 60 plus. Score a TD against LSU

Yeah, he's got some nice tools for sure. I just have a feeling he'll go too early in the second for us.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Tannenhill looks like a classic elder Shanahan QB. Only problem I have is his release is a little sloppy and the offense has to many curls and screens for my taste.


And of course it took Ryan less then 2 minutes to do what Alabama couldn't do in 60 plus. Score a TD against LSU

Different LSU team Dirt. You know that.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

I'm going to champion my new realistic sleeper prospect

Kirk Cousins
6'3, 210 pounds | Quarterback | Michigan State
Kirk Cousins Stats, News, Videos, Pictures, Bio - Michigan State Spartans - ESPN

But he's not an SEC QB?! [/sarcasm]

:FIREdevil

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

But he's not an SEC QB?! [/sarcasm]

:FIREdevil

Thats true. If he done played in the SEC he would have like -47 TD passes by now.

[IrMitchell]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

I'm going to champion my new realistic sleeper prospect

Kirk Cousins
6'3, 210 pounds | Quarterback | Michigan State
Kirk Cousins Stats, News, Videos, Pictures, Bio - Michigan State Spartans - ESPN

First word: Cousins joins a long list of promising quarterback prospects and is a sleeper pick of many different evaluators. The fact that he has played against good Big 10 competition and has experience undercenter makes him an attractive prospect. He has an opportunity to really improve his stock with a solid season.

There is a lot to like about Cousins from his good arm strength to his on field leadership. The ball jumps out of his hand and arrives to his target with zip. There is no doubt that he can make all the necessary NFL throws. His ball placement and accuracy is good on all levels. He can read a defense and is able to locate secondary targets. Cousins has good anticipation which allows him to avoid turnovers and batted balls.

While Cousins has a lot of positives there are still some significant concerns. His technique is less than ideal which impacts the delivery of the football. Cousins doesn't step into his throws often throwing off of his back foot resulting in less power. He can get away with this in college but in the NFL with tighter passing windows he could struggle to complete passes. Cousins also doesn't set his body and feet towards his target impacting his accuracy. While he is accurate improved footwork will only make him better.

Overall, Cousins has enough talent and potential to warrant the attention he is receiving. He needs a productive season while leading Michigan State to a few more wins. Improving his technique and footwork will only help his draft stock.

Bold statement: Kirk Cousins will be a 2nd round pick in 2012

Games viewed: Wisconsin ('10), Iowa ('10), Michigan ('10), Penn State ('10)
Notes:

Cousins is a decent athlete with the ability to escape the rush

Michigan State has a pro style offense that likes to feature play action

His experience and success in the Michigan State offense is a positive

He possesses a strong arm generating good zip on passes to all levels

Cousins keeps his eyes down the field when faced with pressure

As he drops back he keeps the ball above his breast plate avoiding wasted motions

He has a quick release that allows him to get the ball out on time

His accuracy is good on all levels as he leads his targets and also has the touch to drop in a bucket pass
The ball jumps out of his hands and arrives to his target on a line

He is able to go through his progressions and find the open man and secondary targets

Cousins needs to improve his technique as he often throws off his back foot and doesn't align his feet and body towards the target

He struggles to get rid of the football as he holds the ball to long and often takes sacks

Cousins has a tendency to force the ball when faced with pressure resulting in turnovers

Huge State fan... Um, Don't let Cousins fool you.. He leaves you wanting more every game.

[skinsfaninok]

I'd love Barkley but He will be gone in the top 4 picks so we may have to trade, I'd take RG3 also