Russel Wilson or Bob

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I don't think Seattle has a great offense. Who are their wr's? Sidney Rice? Golden Tate? I don't even know who their TE is.

To me they just play well together, no real stars on that team, although Sherman has become a true shutdown corner.

who is tom brady throwing the ball to? And no Im not saying he is Tom Brady, but you know some guys thrive when they can make the players around them better. Wilson certainly isnt the tallest, with the biggest arm, but he is a leader.

Side note, Patriots are 3-0 with nobody to throw the ball too. As much as I cant stand Brady and Hoody, that duo continues to amaze.

[CRedskinsRule]

Russell Wilson likely will go down as a draft day steal, but there was no way the Skins were picking him as their starter, so it's just not a valid what if. If there is one team that came away from that draft with a legitimate what if question it has to be the Browns.

[skinsfan69]

I was one of the few that thought we overpaid...nearly got ran outta here too. I just don't see much of a difference between RG3 and Wilson, yet Wilson went in the 3rd round.

[SmootSmack]

I think you're confusing Firstdown with someone else

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

If RW was drafted by the Browns I don't think this thread exists.

[skinsfaninok]

Mooby because people always want to be downers. So now RG3 isn't better than Wilson... But last year everyone here was all over Griffin. He's actually not even having a bad year.. and Wilson has had 1 good game so far and that was against Jax.. get real people, he's not better than Griffin

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Mooby because people always want to be downers. So now RG3 isn't better than Wilson... But last year everyone here was all over Griffin. He's actually not even having a bad year.. and Wilson has had 1 good game so far and that was against Jax.. get real people, he's not better than Griffin

As stated earlier Wiilson is the top rated qb since week 9 last yr.
His total qbr last yr was 71.7 ,Rg3's was 73.2,not a very big difference is it?
This yr qbr for Wilson is 61.9,Rg3's is 26.6 ,HUGE DIFFERENCE

If he's not better than Rg3 he's damn close to being AS good as him

Im not really down on RG3,I think he's great.Unlike a lot of people on here I had realistic expectations of his play this yr coming off of knee surgery.
But as much as I like RG3 I'd rather have Wilson and get those 3 number 1 picks back.

Lets say RG3 was healthy and didnt hurt his knee last yr and was playing like he did last yr but the skins want to deal him.You control the team that has Russell Wilson.Would you trade Wilson to the Skins for Rg3 and throw in 3 #1 picks on top of that? Do you think any team would?

A lot of people in this thread keep forgetting about the picks! This isnt about whether RG3's better than Wilson,its about whether RG3 is better than 3 #1 picks and Wilson

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

As stated earlier Wiilson is the top rated qb since week 9 last yr.
His total qbr last yr was 71.7 ,Rg3's was 73.2,not a very big difference is it?
This yr qbr for Wilson is 61.9,Rg3's is 26.6 ,HUGE DIFFERENCE

If he's not better than Rg3 he's damn close to being AS good as him

Im not really down on RG3,I think he's great.Unlike a lot of people on here I had realistic expectations of his play this yr coming off of knee surgery.
But as much as I like RG3 I'd rather have Wilson and get those 3 number 1 picks back.

Lets say RG3 was healthy and didnt hurt his knee last yr and was playing like he did last yr but the skins want to deal him.You control the team that has Russell Wilson.Would you trade Wilson to the Skins for Rg3 and throw in 3 #1 picks on top of that? Do you think any team would?

A lot of people in this thread keep forgetting about the picks! This isnt about whether RG3's better than Wilson,its about whether RG3 is better than 3 #1 picks and Wilson

I have said this before and will say it again. Put RG3 on the Seahawks last year and they win the SB. Put Wilson on the skins, and they are lucky to win 6 games. The Seahawks havent had close to 19 mil less cap space each of the last two years and could sign just about anyone they wanted to.

The cap hit is done this year. If we can sign a good RT and some secondary help, then lets see how good this team can be. I dont think people understand what you can do with 38 mil in cap space for two years. Lets see how good RG3 can be when he doesnt have to carry half the team unlike Wilson who doesnt have to carry anything. Doesnt have to worry about scoring a ton of points with that defense. Can make a mistake and not have to care because the defense will help him out.

Of course you do realize that you are comparing a guy coming off of major knee surgery to a guy who isnt, dont you? A guy who didnt do much of anything in the offseason except rehab his knee over someone who had a full offseason to work with his team. At least make equal comparisons. Look at the playoff game when RG3 was only playing on a half gimpy knee and not a full gimpy knee. Wilson wasnt doing much against our defense and RG3 shredded their defense the first two drives. When both are healthy, RG3 is a better QB.

Look at the bright side, at least we dont have Gabbert, who a lot wanted the year prior. That was huge to not waste a pick that a lot were screaming for. If we draft him, we dont have RG3 or Wilson and are still stuck at the most important position in sports. If we had drafted Gabbert, the firing Shanahan talks would be a lot more justified.

[That Guy]

we used a pick on RGIII, taking a player costs a pick. if you trade 4 picks for 1 pick, that means you gave away 3 extra picks in the trade.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I don't remember calling it third grade math at all but at the end of the day it costs us two first rounders to move up to get him along with a second rounder.

You are correct. The swap is a wash. We traded two firsts and a second
Edit: swapping picks is not giving a pick away. We got a higher pick for the one we gave the rams in the first round for Griff.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

To be honest, I really dont care. It just gets annoying when people say we gve up 3 first rounders.

Annoyed me since day one. Griff is a first round pick - no matter what he has bought or brings to the table he is a first round pick. Im with you 100 %.

[Lotus]

Not the "how many picks?" argument again!

Both sides are correct:
we gave up three first rounders GROSS
we gave up two first rounders NET

Can we please move on?

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Not the "how many picks?" argument again!

Both sides are correct:
we gave up three first rounders GROSS
we gave up two first rounders NET

Can we please move on?

Smh at people forgetting the second rounder which is kinda important, and down playing what we paid to get RG3.

the choice in this thread is this: RG3 or 4 other players.

If we pick Russell Wilson in the first round we also have a second round pick added to our roster then and another first round pick player this year and we look forward to getting our first-round pick the next draft that we don't have now. with the benefit of hindsight we have Russell Wilson and a first round pick from 2012 draft and another first round pick on our roster now ( and to be fair a slide into the second round wasn't unexpected for Wilson at the time) and again we look forward to our next draft having a first round pick.

Thats the choice. RG3 or RW and 3 other 1st round players or RW and 2 1sts and a 2nd.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

Smh at people forgetting the second rounder which is kinda important, and down playing what we paid to get RG3.

the choice in this thread is this: RG3 or 4 other players.

If we pick Russell Wilson in the first round we also have a second round pick added to our roster then and another first round pick player this year and we look forward to getting our first-round pick the next draft that we don't have now. with the benefit of hindsight we have Russell Wilson and a first round pick from 2012 draft and another first round pick on our roster now ( and to be fair a slide into the second round wasn't unexpected for Wilson at the time) and again we look forward to our next draft having a first round pick.

Thats the choice. RG3 or RW and 3 other 1st round players or RW and 2 1sts and a 2nd.

You missed the point. I have not forgotten the second rounder. But the fallacious arguments have been phrased in terms of first rounders only.

Again I say, can we please move on?

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by Lotus

You missed the point. I have not forgotten the second rounder. But the fallacious arguments have been phrased in terms of first rounders only.

Again I say, can we please move on?

( throws up hands) okay fine. Its either

RG3

or

RW and additionally 3 first round picks.

Thats the choice.