Draft wrap-up 2013

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Was this the franchise's first draft ever?

First and only by the sounds of it.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by TenandSix:Unacceptable

C

Say it with me now:

"Not enough big bodies."

Football is a war of attrition that is won in the trenches.

We got no linemen on either side of the ball if we count Jenkins as an OLB.

In my book that's a 300 pound problem.

I understand what you're saying, but we have a lot of great OLineman and depth and we have a very solid DL. Could we upgrade? Sure, but from where we were picking and what needs we had, picking OL and DL wasn't a priority and we would have just been picking them for need instead of value and need.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by TenandSix:Unacceptable

C

Say it with me now:

"Not enough big bodies."

Football is a war of attrition that is won in the trenches.

We got no linemen on either side of the ball if we count Jenkins as an OLB.

In my book that's a 300 pound problem.

Cute post.

Our rostered linemen:

C - Montgomery
G - Boyle, Chester, Gettis, Hurt, LeRibeus, Lichtensteiger (G/C)
T - Williams, Polumbus, Pashos, Trueblood, Compton


That's 12 total, at least 10 or 11 capable linemen including one elite LT in Trent Williams.

Also, last year, these guys helped us towards the #1 rushing offense in the NFL and the 5th-ranked offense overall.

We did exactly what we needed to do this draft...secondary, secondary and more secondary. Wit the other picks, we added some RBs since we really only have 2 healthy RBs on the team and a depth problem. Jordan Reed was too good to pass up and will make this offense even more dangerous.

We didn't need to draft linemen. Once the first few rounds and the legitimate starting-caliber RTs were gone, there's no need to waste a pick on O-line depth. We have plenty of young reserves in LeRibeus, Compton, Hurt, Gettis.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by TenandSix:Unacceptable

C

Say it with me now:

"Not enough big bodies."

Football is a war of attrition that is won in the trenches.

We got no linemen on either side of the ball if we count Jenkins as an OLB.

In my book that's a 300 pound problem.

I get your point, but I think you got to think in context of how we have been building this team. Right Tackle is a concern and we need someone to step up there, but outside of that on both sides of the Line I feel rather confident with our bunch.

[MTK]

I fail to see how drafting a bunch of lineman would have helped us any this year. Outside of RT are there any other line positions up for grabs on either side of the ball??

[TenandSix:Unacceptable]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I fail to see how drafting a bunch of lineman would have helped us any this year. Outside of RT are there any other line positions up for grabs on either side of the ball??

Do the Giants and Ravens have good defensive lines?

Yes.

But they draft the big boys every year.

Hey, I'm not saying we shouldn't have drafted any DB's, but for a draft that's deep along the defensive line we got none. Look at us last year. Front seven was supposed to be the strength of the team and then Orakpo and Carriker go down and it's middling. The defense played way over it's head during the win streak and everyone likes to focus on how bad our secondary was. But hey, we had the third most picks in the league and the 23rd most sacks. I'm a believer that you can do smoke and mirrors in the secondary but you can't fake winning at the point of attack.

Not having a first round pick or money to spend on FA's meant this team was going to have some holes no matter what. With Griffin in the fold the only thing I would have truly cared about shoring up was OL depth and the front seven. Secondary and skill players be damned I want a team that wins up front. Obviously, the ideal is to have both but we went all in on small players and I can't fall in love with the strategy.

Meanwhile you guys are all giving out B's and A's. In my mind there is no such thing as getting an A in the draft with no first round pick and ZERO offensive or defensive linemen. Period.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by TenandSix:Unacceptable

Do the Giants and Ravens have good defensive lines?

Yes.

But they draft the big boys every year.

Hey, I'm not saying we shouldn't have drafted any DB's, but for a draft that's deep along the defensive line we got none. Look at us last year. Front seven was supposed to be the strength of the team and then Orakpo and Carriker go down and it's middling. The defense played way over it's head during the win streak and everyone likes to focus on how bad our secondary was. But hey, we had the third most picks in the league and the 23rd most sacks. I'm a believer that you can do smoke and mirrors in the secondary but you can't fake winning at the point of attack.

Not having a first round pick or money to spend on FA's meant this team was going to have some holes no matter what. With Griffin in the fold the only thing I would have truly cared about shoring up was OL depth and the front seven. Secondary and skill players be damned I want a team that wins up front. Obviously, the ideal is to have both but we went all in on small players and I can't fall in love with the strategy.

Meanwhile you guys are all giving out B's and A's. In my mind there is no such thing as getting an A in the draft with no first round pick and ZERO offensive or defensive linemen. Period.

The Giants have a good defensive line because they specifically spend first-round picks on the DL. We could not do that this year.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by TenandSix:Unacceptable

Do the Giants and Ravens have good defensive lines?

Yes.

But they draft the big boys every year.

Hey, I'm not saying we shouldn't have drafted any DB's, but for a draft that's deep along the defensive line we got none. Look at us last year. Front seven was supposed to be the strength of the team and then Orakpo and Carriker go down and it's middling. The defense played way over it's head during the win streak and everyone likes to focus on how bad our secondary was. But hey, we had the third most picks in the league and the 23rd most sacks. I'm a believer that you can do smoke and mirrors in the secondary but you can't fake winning at the point of attack.

Not having a first round pick or money to spend on FA's meant this team was going to have some holes no matter what. With Griffin in the fold the only thing I would have truly cared about shoring up was OL depth and the front seven. Secondary and skill players be damned I want a team that wins up front. Obviously, the ideal is to have both but we went all in on small players and I can't fall in love with the strategy.

Meanwhile you guys are all giving out B's and A's. In my mind there is no such thing as getting an A in the draft with no first round pick and ZERO offensive or defensive linemen. Period.

Good for the Ravens and Giants.

We obviously felt the secondary needed more help and considering how deep of a draft it was there this was the perfect year to stock up. This is also the first year that Shanahan hasn't taken an OL here. Our picks reflected our needs pretty well. I don't recall any draft gurus pointing out any glaring needs on the d-line and outside of right tackle none on the OL either.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by TenandSix:Unacceptable

Do the Giants and Ravens have good defensive lines?

Yes.

But they draft the big boys every year.

Hey, I'm not saying we shouldn't have drafted any DB's, but for a draft that's deep along the defensive line we got none. Look at us last year. Front seven was supposed to be the strength of the team and then Orakpo and Carriker go down and it's middling. The defense played way over it's head during the win streak and everyone likes to focus on how bad our secondary was. But hey, we had the third most picks in the league and the 23rd most sacks. I'm a believer that you can do smoke and mirrors in the secondary but you can't fake winning at the point of attack.

Not having a first round pick or money to spend on FA's meant this team was going to have some holes no matter what. With Griffin in the fold the only thing I would have truly cared about shoring up was OL depth and the front seven. Secondary and skill players be damned I want a team that wins up front. Obviously, the ideal is to have both but we went all in on small players and I can't fall in love with the strategy.

Meanwhile you guys are all giving out B's and A's. In my mind there is no such thing as getting an A in the draft with no first round pick and ZERO offensive or defensive linemen. Period.

In 2010-2013 the NYG drafted 11 Linemen(5OL, 6DL), the Skins took 10(6 OL, 4, DL). Source is www.pro-footballreference.com .

I don't know that one team has emphasized it more than the other. Now we have been substantially more uneven in the round drafted, but that is a matter of how we have generally been moving back to regain picks in the early years.
NYG Lineman per round: 2 - 1st, 2 - 2nd, 1 ea, 3, 4, 5, 2 - 6th, 2 - 7th.
Skins Lnemen per round: 2 - 1st, 1 - 3rd, 2 -5th, 2 - 6th, 4 - 7th.
Oh and NE, 7 in those 3 years, 4 of those in the 7th round, 1 - 1st, 3rd, and 6th

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I fail to see how drafting a bunch of lineman would have helped us any this year. Outside of RT are there any other line positions up for grabs on either side of the ball??

It only makes sense to those who still believe A) football is a game of 3 yards and a cloud of dust and B) the only way to protect a QB is to have a dozen 300 lb. men up front.

The game has evolved, unfortunately quite a few fans haven't evolved with it

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

It only makes sense to those who still believe A) football is a game of 3 yards and a cloud of dust and B) the only way to protect a QB is to have a dozen 300 lb. men up front.

The game has evolved, unfortunately quite a few fans haven't evolved with it

ehh, yeah the game has evolved for sure. Still gotta control that line of scrimmage.

[Monkeydad]

A few more # announcements:

[GridIron26]

And Adrian Foster

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

And Adrian Foster

Never heard of her.


Arian Foster?

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Never heard of her.


Arian Foster?

Arian it is