Darrell Green does not support Redskin name change

[saden1]

I have changed my view on this whole name change thing from being against it to being for it. If native Americans find the name offensive who am I to tell them they shouldn't be offended?

The name needs to change, it will change. I am hopeful the logo and colors stay the same.

[Ruhskins]

I really wish that the group that is advocating for the Redskins to change their name would go after the whole concept of using Native Americans as team mascots/names. While I do feel we are headed in the direction of a name change, I think it is ridiculous that you got all this pressure on the Redskins, while you still have the Braves, Indians (with their caricatured mascot), the Chiefs, the Blackhawks, the Seminoles, etc,. etc.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I really wish that the group that is advocating for the Redskins to change their name would go after the whole concept of using Native Americans as team mascots/names. While I do feel we are headed in the direction of a name change, I think it is ridiculous that you got all this pressure on the Redskins, while you still have the Braves, Indians (with their caricatured mascot), the Chiefs, the Blackhawks, the Seminoles, etc,. etc.

I have heard that is the game plan. it will be a domino effect. The funny thing to me is how Oneida could find Seminoles offensive if they aren't from Seminole heritage, I think that has interesting legal implications.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

I have heard that is the game plan. it will be a domino effect. The funny thing to me is how Oneida could find Seminoles offensive if they aren't from Seminole heritage, I think that has interesting legal implications.

They should be focusing on that and not just one team. I don't think they'll get anywhere attacking one team.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

I have heard that is the game plan. it will be a domino effect. The funny thing to me is how Oneida could find Seminoles offensive if they aren't from Seminole heritage, I think that has interesting legal implications.

EXACTLY! That's why I roll my eyes every time I hear someone say "change the nickname but keep the logo." Do you all really think they would accept that?!?!
The people who are against it don't just find the name "Redskins" offensive, they find any use of Native American imagery or stereotyping (ie the Indian's logo or the tomahawk chop) offensive. As BaltimoreSkins said, they find the term Redskins to be the most offensive of the bunch so they are going after that first and then hoping it cause a domino effect and everything else will change.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I really wish that the group that is advocating for the Redskins to change their name would go after the whole concept of using Native Americans as team mascots/names. While I do feel we are headed in the direction of a name change, I think it is ridiculous that you got all this pressure on the Redskins, while you still have the Braves, Indians (with their caricatured mascot), the Chiefs, the Blackhawks, the Seminoles, etc,. etc.

I just find it interesting that the richest Native American tribe in the country is on this warpath (pun intended) to rid the country of "racial epitaphs" in the name of everything good and moral, but see no wrong in making their millions off of people's gambling addictions. They should definitely do the right thing and close all of their casinos.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by saden1

I have changed my view on this whole name change thing from being against it to being for it. If native Americans find the name offensive who am I to tell them they shouldn't be offended?

The name needs to change, it will change. I am hopeful the logo and colors stay the same.

they wont change the name and not the logo thats just dumb

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

they wont change the name and not the logo thats just dumb

They could go back to the old school spear perhaps?

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

They could go back to the old school spear perhaps?

I looooove the old school spear. I would not be disappointed if we went back to that. A little boring but I think it still works.

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by saden1

I have changed my view on this whole name change thing from being against it to being for it. If native Americans find the name offensive who am I to tell them they shouldn't be offended?

The name needs to change, it will change. I am hopeful the logo and colors stay the same.

I thought it was a fairly well known fact that the vast majority of Native Americans aren't offended by the name. The question you should be asking is: "Who are we to tell the Native Americans what they should be offended about?"

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

I thought it was a fairly well known fact that the vast majority of Native Americans aren't offended by the name. The question you should be asking is: "Who are we to tell the Native Americans what they should be offended about?"

Do we know that? The last scientific survey done was in 2004. A lot of opinions can change in 10 years. I know we all can find anecdotal evidence to support the issue one way or the other, but to get the full picture we genuinely need to be asking Native Americans how they feel in as unbiased as possible. With the amount of attention this issue is receiving however, I am not sure that opportunity will arise.

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Do we know that? The last scientific survey done was in 2004. A lot of opinions can change in 10 years. I know we all can find anecdotal evidence to support the issue one way or the other, but to get the full picture we genuinely need to be asking Native Americans how they feel in as unbiased as possible. With the amount of attention this issue is receiving however, I am not sure that opportunity will arise.

I was basing my post off two things: the recent, unscientific poll that showed that 90% of Native Americans aren't offended, and Native Americans that have come out and said they didn't find the name offensive.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by saden1

I have changed my view on this whole name change thing from being against it to being for it. If native Americans find the name offensive who am I to tell them they shouldn't be offended?

The name needs to change, it will change. I am hopeful the logo and colors stay the same.

What if some did and some didn't? There are high schools across the country with significant Native American enrollment fighting tooth and nail to keep the name Redskin. What other so called racial slur would be defended like this by the people who are supposed to be offended?

[Ruhskins]

They should drop the name and just be called Washington.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I really wish that the group that is advocating for the Redskins to change their name would go after the whole concept of using Native Americans as team mascots/names. While I do feel we are headed in the direction of a name change, I think it is ridiculous that you got all this pressure on the Redskins, while you still have the Braves, Indians (with their caricatured mascot), the Chiefs, the Blackhawks, the Seminoles, etc,. etc.

Well I agree 100% about the indians. Ive referenced that a few times. The rest of those nicknames are not really politically incorrect. I think Redskins would be the equivilant of say the ...California Palefaces.