Giants Post Game Reactions

[That Guy]

if you're down 9 points and there are 45 minutes left, you can still run it, especially if your defense is pretty decent. if there are issues with having the backup OL in or kirk is changing out of it or whatever, that's a different thing than just getting nervous way too early, but i didn't hear any explanation in the press conference (i didn't listen to the entire thing), so i'm not sure why they switched things up so drastically.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by That Guy

if you're down 9 points and there are 45 minutes left, you can still run it, especially if your defense is pretty decent. if there are issues with having the backup OL in or kirk is changing out of it or whatever, that's a different thing than just getting nervous way too early, but i didn't hear any explanation in the press conference (i didn't listen to the entire thing), so i'm not sure why they switched things up so drastically.

I think plenty of people on this board have given plenty of reason over and over again. I know we arent the HC but they sort of make sense?

Starting LG out early - strength of our run game is the left side

Giants secondary was getting beat bad and wr's were open all over the place - it was apparent that there was a reason they ranked dead last against the pass

Giants stuffed us in a third or fourth? and short and stacked the box and bottled both Almo and Jones up early - it was apparent that there was a reason they ranked number one against the run.

Cousins had so much time to throw It was laughable on a handful of plays. Our pass pro seemed legit for the first time in a long time.

We were down 12 for most of the game which forced us to throw more.

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I think plenty of people on this board have given plenty of reason over and over again. I know we arent the HC but they sort of make sense?

Starting LG out early - strength of our run game is the left side

Giants secondary was getting beat bad and wr's were open all over the place - it was apparent that there was a reason they ranked dead last against the pass

Giants stuffed us in a third or fourth? and short and stacked the box and bottled both Almo and Jones up early - it was apparent that there was a reason they ranked number one against the run.

Cousins had so much time to throw It was laughable on a handful of plays. Our pass pro seemed legit for the first time in a long time.

We were down 12 for most of the game which forced us to throw more.

People would rather give irrational explanation to why they are right, then actually making sense of situation.

When you have a guard that pulls a lot in a power offense. It really cripples you as a run team when he goes down. We still attempted to run but we were not having a lot of success and when you have to punt to a team taking 5-8 minutes off the clock everytime they have the ball. It makes committing to the run difficult.

We are going to have games were we need to rely on Kirk to win with his arm. He was 2-3 yards short on throws this week to doing just that. I'm not freaking out because I've seen him make these throws before so I know he can do it. I'm just worried about his progression and mental state after throwing multiple picks still

[30gut]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...inst-the-rams/

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by 30gut

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...inst-the-rams/

Thats 9 in the box in the clip they are showing in that article. Yet people are saying that running against an 8 man box is impossible. Its possible, you just need to want to do it. Against the Giants, we didnt make any effort to. We lined up in pass sets the whole game and made no effort to do what we do well. Even when we ran, it was Carrier as the blocker, who run blocks worse than Reed. It was an attempt to show pass but end up running, which is fine at times. But not going to work when your QB is off.

Guys, its possible to run against an 8 man box. Stop making excuses as to why you cant when we did exactly that against the rams. And no... Lauvoa is not the one singular reason we were able to run against the dolphins and rams. It doesnt help losing him, but its also not the end of the world like its being made out to be.

Also, all this stuff about KC being off. Yes he was, we all saw it, except the play callers. When your QB is having an off game, and he is not an elite QB, then change the play calling to help him out. Coaches do that all the time. Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers, you allow them to do what they do since they have earned the benefit of the doubt. KC... Not so much. Offer him help in some way, shape, or form. Dont find something that isnt working and stick with it. The play calls were good if KC was on his game. The fact that he wasnt, and everyone saw that, means they werent good play calls.

[skinsfan69]

On to the Beagles. Giants game is toast. I want to see this below average Redskin team play like an average team and grind out a win at home.

[That Guy]

if you're QB is sucking, do you just keep chucking?


we had a bunch of success w/ 3 TEs vs the rams, and basically didn't use it vs the giants on a short week. I understand why we weren't running in the 4th quarter, and kirk put up a lot of garbage time yards that helped make the loss and his stat line look better than it was.

I don't get it, everyone wants us to be a power-running team, yet they're perfectly okay when we go pass happy in the middle of the first quarter, even though that's not what we're good at.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by That Guy

if you're QB is sucking, do you just keep chucking?


we had a bunch of success w/ 3 TEs vs the rams, and basically didn't use it vs the giants on a short week. I understand why we weren't running in the 4th quarter, and kirk put up a lot of garbage time yards that helped make the loss and his stat line look better than it was.

I don't get it, everyone wants us to be a power-running team, yet they're perfectly okay when we go pass happy in the middle of the first quarter, even though that's not what we're good at.

We're capable of passing the ball. You have to try to do it against 8 man fronts. We didn't make any plays. Off night. But I would expect a professional NFL team to try and pass the ball when the other team is daring you to do so.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

We're capable of passing the ball. You have to try to do it against 8 man fronts. We didn't make any plays. Off night. But I would expect a professional NFL team to try and pass the ball when the other team is daring you to do so.

Agreed. Even when your QB starts slow - you have to take what the defense gives you.

However there is no arguing this anymore. Just wait till goid KC shows up than Gruden will have called a good game.

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Agreed. Even when your QB starts slow - you have to take what the defense gives you.

However there is no arguing this anymore. Just wait till goid KC shows up than Gruden will have called a good game.

But this is what I am talking about. As the play caller, you cant just chalk it up to the game plan wasnt working tonight, Oh well. He needs to try something to get the team going. Would we have won the game doing something else? I have no clue. We may have still lost and looked bad. But you dont just give up because the norm isnt working. This isnt about "trying to pass". Its about giving up on the run and going pass happy when your not elite QB was having an off night.

Its not always what the defense gives you. Sometimes you just have to go out there and try to take it. This is the NFL after all.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Skinzman

But this is what I am talking about. As the play caller, you cant just chalk it up to the game plan wasnt working tonight, Oh well. He needs to try something to get the team going. Would we have won the game doing something else? I have no clue. We may have still lost and looked bad. But you dont just give up because the norm isnt working. This isnt about "trying to pass". Its about giving up on the run and going pass happy when your not elite QB was having an off night.



Its not always what the defense gives you. Sometimes you just have to go out there and try to take it. This is the NFL after all.

When you say "doing something else "I can only imagine u mean run more? He tried throwing plenty of screens. They did not work. He went deep. It did not work. He tried three different running backs. The run was not working. We have to leave the fourth quarter alone because he had no choice. Someone mentioned a three tight end set to help run the ball. Do we have any tight ends on our team that can block? That formation is not an automatic slam dunk run and move the sticks magic trick. Especially when they cannot block.
For the first three quarters we were tantalizingly close to moving the chains through the air. However we were not going anywhere on the ground. So I suppose Gruden could have said you know what KC stinks tonite. We are going to keep running into a brick wall. That neither moves the chains nor does it give your qb (really the one u r stuck with, because forget about Colt effing Mccoy) any confidence going forward. He pinned his hopes on the fact that KC was going to get better, instead of pinning them on the fact that our run game was going to suddenly be effective. As the game moved forward it became more urgent to throw.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by That Guy

if you're QB is sucking, do you just keep chucking?


we had a bunch of success w/ 3 TEs vs the rams, and basically didn't use it vs the giants on a short week. I understand why we weren't running in the 4th quarter, and kirk put up a lot of garbage time yards that helped make the loss and his stat line look better than it was.

I don't get it, everyone wants us to be a power-running team, yet they're perfectly okay when we go pass happy in the middle of the first quarter, even though that's not what we're good at.

KC is an NFL QB and he's hit on many big passing plays here. Just cause he missed a few doesn't mean he won't get the next one. You can't just try and keep running against that many guys in the box. Our Rb's were getting hit before they were getting to the line. You have to try and throw there to loosen up the defense and make them respect your offense.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

KC is an NFL QB and he's hit on many big passing plays here. Just cause he missed a few doesn't mean he won't get the next one. You can't just try and keep running against that many guys in the box. Our Rb's were getting hit before they were getting to the line. You have to try and throw there to loosen up the defense and make them respect your offense.

One of the reasons our 91' team was so damn good is if you stacked the box, Ryp' bombed ur ass. Rush 4, get a nice taste of the rush.....

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Hog1

One of the reasons our 91' team was so damn good is if you stacked the box, Ryp' bombed ur ass. Rush 4, get a nice taste of the rush.....

Didn't hurt when you had Monk, Clark and Sanders either. But Rip was a great deep ball thrower and Gibbs seemed to know exactly when to drop a bomb on someone.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Didn't hurt when you had Monk, Clark and Sanders either. But Rip was a great deep ball thrower and Gibbs seemed to know exactly when to drop a bomb on someone.

........maybe