It's Over: Cutler Going to Chicago

[The Goat]

Wait, if the herb-loving Raji falls we pass on Oher, Rey or anyone else right?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Wait, if the herb-loving Raji falls we pass on Oher, Rey or anyone else right?

Sounds like you're loving some herbs yourself. LOL.

[The Goat]

Not tonight...this a-hole at the office gave me his cold

[Daseal]

I was absolutely for getting Jay Cutler, but Im glad we didn't with the price the Bears paid. WOW. 2 1sts, a 3rd and Orton? Thats far out of my price range.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Daseal

I was absolutely for getting Jay Cutler, but Im glad we didn't with the price the Bears paid. WOW. 2 1sts, a 3rd and Orton? Thats far out of my price range.

Well-said all around.

[SouperMeister]

Enough on Cutler, Campbell is our QB. I can't wait to see Snyderato claim that Campbell is their man with a straight face. Snyder has done nothing but undermine Campbell by creating instability with 3 coordinators in Campbell's first 4 seasons, then wonders why Campbell is still a work in progress. At least Zorn is a believer.

[Zerohero]

Instead of 18 game seasons we should ban trades for next year, since apparently owners don't have the right to offer players in trade talks without being demonized. To be fair we will have to abolish free agency.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Enough on Cutler, Campbell is our QB. I can't wait to see Snyderato claim that Campbell is their man with a straight face. Snyder has done nothing but undermine Campbell by creating instability with 3 coordinators in Campbell's first 4 seasons, then wonders why Campbell is still a work in progress. At least Zorn is a believer.

Not to defend Snyderatto, at all, but you can't put the 3 coordinators all on him. Gibbs brought Saunders in and then handcuffed him. If Saunders was able to call his game with JC in '07 I'd bet he wouldn't have been let go in '08 because the results would have been there that Snyder wanted to see.

[SmootSmack]

It's remarkable how no one can ever think to give credit to the Redskins. No one can ever say the Redskins tested the market, decided they weren't going to get what they wanted and backed out. No, it's always "so and so saved the Redskins from themselves"

We complain that the team values other players more than its own, but it seems like we fans value other teams more than our own as well..

By the way, I believe Orton's career record is 19-11 so based on many people's criteria, he's clearly a better QB than either Cutler or Campbell.

[AnimateYYZ]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

It's remarkable how no one can ever think to give credit to the Redskins. No one can ever say the Redskins tested the market, decided they weren't going to get what they wanted and backed out. No, it's always "so and so saved the Redskins from themselves"

We complain that the team values other players more than its own, but it seems like we fans value other teams more than our own as well..

By the way, I believe Orton's career record is 19-11 so based on many people's criteria, he's clearly a better QB than either Cutler or Campbell.

Well said.

Football is cliche and so are the "expert" posters.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

It's remarkable how no one can ever think to give credit to the Redskins. No one can ever say the Redskins tested the market, decided they weren't going to get what they wanted and backed out. No, it's always "so and so saved the Redskins from themselves"

We complain that the team values other players more than its own, but it seems like we fans value other teams more than our own as well..

By the way, I believe Orton's career record is 19-11 so based on many people's criteria, he's clearly a better QB than either Cutler or Campbell.

It's not testing the market that bothers me. It's the way we handle it. Apparently there were about a dozen other teams "testing the market" for Cutler's services. Did any of them have a "GM" or HC come out and say their current starter was the guy, there was no interest in Cutler, and then backtrack a week later?

Danny and Co. have set their own precedent. That's why despite the fact that other teams were bigger players for Cutler, we were the team leading every ESPN broadcast mentioning the whole thing. We look silly and confused. We say one thing and do another. Our owner is pulling all the personnel strings, which this (and Haynesworth) has made profoundly clear. We reassured JC he wasn't going anywhere, then turned around and actively shopped him while trying to acquire Cutler. We look like we have no idea what we're doing, and it's not the first time. That's my issue.

So yeah, the Bears saved us from ourselves. Wouldn't you say the Bengals did the same thing last offseason?

Do you really think we decided we weren't going to get what we wanted and backed out? Granted you have way more resources than I do on the matter, but I'd say we got outbid. And because of past FA moves we didn't have the picks to match.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GMScud

It's not testing the market that bothers me. It's the way we handle it. Apparently there were about a dozen other teams "testing the market" for Cutler's services. Did any of them have a "GM" or HC come out and say their current starter was the guy, there was no interest in Cutler, and then backtrack a week later?

Every team has different situations. I think the Skins were really the only team in the running that already had a young QB that was perceived as being the long term answer by most experts. And up until a few days ago, Cutler wasn't officially on the market. So at the time the Skins technically weren't pursuing Cutler so why would they say anything different?

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Every team has different situations. I think the Skins were really the only team in the running that already had a young QB that was perceived as being the long term answer by most experts. And up until a few days ago, Cutler wasn't officially on the market. So at the time the Skins technically weren't pursuing Cutler so why would they say anything different?

Good point. Although I think we were interested in Cutler as soon as the rift occurred between him and McDaniels. Our name was right up there on the rumor list before he ever officially hit the market.

Also, Snyder was at Sanchez's private workout, which was before Cutler hit the market. That makes me think it was a bit more than due diligence, and that we had ideas about a QB change for a while.

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

It's remarkable how no one can ever think to give credit to the Redskins. No one can ever say the Redskins tested the market, decided they weren't going to get what they wanted and backed out. No, it's always "so and so saved the Redskins from themselves"

We complain that the team values other players more than its own, but it seems like we fans value other teams more than our own as well..

By the way, I believe Orton's career record is 19-11 so based on many people's criteria, he's clearly a better QB than either Cutler or Campbell.

Mr. Smack.
If it was a classy as that, I'd be fine...but the skins did not just test the market here...they caused a potential PR firestorm and undermined trust with the most important player on the team.

I agree that Orton aint crap and fans are fickle...but you can't honestly believe that this was handled well.

Look at Coach Williams last year...look at Chad Johnson.
If Snyder doesn't have a childhood hero to keep him in check (gibbs)...who knows what he will do next?

That is not good for the psyche and stability of the squad...nor does it do much to attract free agents with price being equal.
Snyder has damaged trust with Campbell...but my old school ways still say...GOOD....let the guy Prove he belongs here long term...if he does...reward the hell outta him!

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

Mr. Smack.
If it was a classy as that, I'd be fine...but the skins did not just test the market here...they caused a potential PR firestorm and undermined trust with the most important player on the team.

I agree that Orton aint crap and fans are fickle...but you can't honestly believe that this was handled well.

Look at Coach Williams last year...look at Chad Johnson.
If Snyder doesn't have a childhood hero to keep him in check (gibbs)...who knows what he will do next?

That is not good for the psyche and stability of the squad...nor does it do much to attract free agents with price being equal.
Snyder has damaged trust with Campbell...but my old school ways still say...GOOD....let the guy Prove he belongs here long term...if he does...reward the hell outta him!

Not to defend Snyderatto and this isn't my fight, but explain to me exactly what the Redskins FO DID to 'cause a firestorm' and what wasn't handled well? They pursued a player that was made available for trade. They have no control over the Mort, Clayton, Florio speculation and all that's associated with it. Please tell me something TANGIBLE they did wrong.

The Williams thing is 2 camps both hurling BS at each other. Williams ego'd his way out of town (and did a great job in Jacksonville, didn't he?) and then tried to act like poor Coach Williams, I don't know what happened. Sure Snyder and Cerratto could have not said anything but neither side was 'right' in this case.