The Official 2010 Training Camp Thread

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

If Chunky and Sexy both go down, we might as well start running Swinging Gate on every play.

If they both go down, we are not going any where this year.That would be a nightmare.

I am scared to see Rex for any amount of game action other than a quarter or to.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

If they both go down, we are not going any where this year.That would be a nightmare.

I am scared to see Rex for any amount of game action other than a quarter or to.

If anyone thinks Rex Grossman is the answer at back-up, I question their judgement. He may do ok for a short period of time, beyond that he'd be suspect.

[Dirtbag59]

I'm starting to love the idea of a no name receiving corps. Maybe we'll see the corps be Moss, Galloway, Fuery, Hodge, Armstrong, and Austin. Notice that theres two names missing that are usually there. One guy that might end up being a steal is a guy named Hodge. Here's his draft report.

"He may be overlooked because he's not on an Alabama team that is No. 1 or a

Florida team that's top five," said teammate Kendrell Lockett. "But how do you overlook a guy who has over 1,000 yards receiving and has accomplished some of

the things he's accomplished? The numbers he produces? How common is that? You can tell what kind of athlete he is."

Hodge has been clocked under 4.5

in the 40-yard dash and he has decent size at 6'1'' and 207 pounds. He is by no means an athletic freak of nature, but he consistently gets the job done by

being physical at the line of scrimmage and catching almost anything that is in his near vicinity. Furthermore, Hodge is rock-solid both on and off the field

and he will enter the NFL with no red flags whatsoever -- not even with any kind of injury history. As a result, Hodge should see his name go off the board

sometime on Day 2 of the upcoming draft, perhaps as early as round four.

Last Updated Jan-13-2010 by Ricky Dimon

[Dirtbag59]

This tweet goes out to Smootsmack

CoachA12 Wow. RT @PewterReport: We are hearing the Bucs will be releasing QB Jevan Snead to make room for Gerald McCoy. Stay tuned.

[rbanerjee23]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

I'm starting to love the idea of a no name receiving corps. Maybe we'll see the corps be Moss, Galloway, Fuery, Hodge, Armstrong, and Austin. Notice that theres two names missing that are usually there. One guy that might end up being a steal is a guy named Hodge. Here's his draft report.

I think if you look at the pass-catchers on this team, not just WRs, the group of Moss, Cooley, Davis, and (to some extent) Portis more than give McNabb a solid group of targets who should be on the field together at least 40-50% of the time.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

If Chunky and Sexy both go down, we might as well start running Swinging Gate on every play.

They may make a trade for Orlovsky instead.

[SmootSmack]

This is why the Bucs are stupid. Now get Colt out of there and sign Snead!

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

This is why the Bucs are stupid. Now get Colt out of there and sign Snead!

Come on BA! Get in there and bring in the Slammin' Snead!

On a side note it's pretty bad that I have no idea who this Hodge guy is Dirtbag. And why haven't we heard anything about him being solid at the minimum? I'd love for a no-name to step up and be a consistent player for us but I'm not hopping on the bandwagon for this guy just yet.

[rbanerjee23]

Anyone else noticing how all the players that Shanahan and Allen have brought in seem to be doing pretty well -- Galloway, Grossman, Williams (Trent and Roydell), Larry Johnson, McNabb, Austin etc. -- but the guys who are struggling a little bit -- Haynesworth, Thomas, Kelly, Brennan -- are all holdovers from the Zorn/Cerrato regime?

Maybe I'm reading a little too much into it and it's only the third day of camp but it's good to know these new guys are making good impressions.

HTTR

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

Anyone else noticing how all the players that Shanahan and Allen have brought in seem to be doing pretty well -- Galloway, Grossman, Williams (Trent and Roydell), Larry Johnson, McNabb, Austin etc. -- but the guys who are struggling a little bit -- Haynesworth, Thomas, Kelly, Brennan -- are all holdovers from the Zorn/Cerrato regime?

Maybe I'm reading a little too much into it and it's only the third day of camp but it's good to know these new guys are making good impressions.

HTTR

I think you have a point. It's also kind of funny that Roydell is doing really well, despite having been cut the last two years. Maybe the fact that Moss, Thomas, Kelly, and ARE were all guaranteed roster spots under Vinny had something to do with him being cut.

Still either way, in spite of Shanahan's ego you have to admire his willingness to have an actual competition. Doesn't matter where you were drafted or for the most part how much money you make. The best players will play.

One thing though that kind of worries me is I haven't heard much about Galloway on the field. Austin, Armstrong, Furry, and Williams have all drawn praise for at least one on field play yet the only thing I hear about Galloway is that he's working with the first team.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

I think you have a point. It's also kind of funny that Roydell is doing really well, despite having been cut the last two years. Maybe the fact that Moss, Thomas, Kelly, and ARE were all guaranteed roster spots under Vinny had something to do with him being cut.

Still either way, in spite of Shanahan's ego you have to admire his willingness to have an actual competition. Doesn't matter where you were drafted or for the most part how much money you make. The best players will play.

One thing though that kind of worries me is I haven't heard much about Galloway on the field. Austin, Armstrong, Furry, and Williams have all drawn praise for at least one on field play yet the only thing I hear about Galloway is that he's working with the first team.

The thing about Galloway is that he can still run (and fast.) He brings a great deal of experience and another player useful for the vertical stretch. However, his production has been way down the last couple of years making him a luxary some serious thought may have to go into a decision to keep, or not to keep.

Both Thomas and Kelly have had their problems with staying healthy, therby being unproductive as a result. It will be interesting to see if one or both of them will be sacrificed in exchange for a longtime veteran who in the last two years has not been anymore productive than they have. Beyond catching passes, Galloway has limited value to the team because he does not do anything else. Therefore, if his production (or lack thereof) continues it's decline, he's of lesser value.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

Anyone else noticing how all the players that Shanahan and Allen have brought in seem to be doing pretty well -- Galloway, Grossman, Williams (Trent and Roydell), Larry Johnson, McNabb, Austin etc. -- but the guys who are struggling a little bit -- Haynesworth, Thomas, Kelly, Brennan -- are all holdovers from the Zorn/Cerrato regime?

Maybe I'm reading a little too much into it and it's only the third day of camp but it's good to know these new guys are making good impressions.

HTTR

I am not at camp, but I would hope some of the new guys would come in and make some plays. Altough I don't think it is right to go back to the Cerrato era. We all know he was bad at building a team but at the same time he did leave us with some talent and a good defense. The Offense was severly overlooked though and that is why a all of the new players you listed were on Offense and just one defensive player ( whose last few months have been highly publised ) has been a problem.

We still have a couple of holdovers on O that will be big time players in the new offense as well. Cooley, Davis, Portis, Moss, Sellers, and Dockery. I know I am taking a defensive position but it is more to just remind you that we still have some players left from the last era we like and enjoy rooting for. HAIL!

[rbanerjee23]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

I am not at camp, but I would hope some of the new guys would come in and make some plays. Altough I don't think it is right to go back to the Cerrato era. We all know he was bad at building a team but at the same time he did leave us with some talent and a good defense. The Offense was severly overlooked though and that is why a all of the new players you listed were on Offense and just one defensive player ( whose last few months have been highly publised ) has been a problem.

We still have a couple of holdovers on O that will be big time players in the new offense as well. Cooley, Davis, Portis, Moss, Sellers, and Dockery. I know I am taking a defensive position but it is more to just remind you that we still have some players left from the last era we like and enjoy rooting for. HAIL!

Oh yeah for sure...I'm not saying by any means that we don't have players to build around. I think Orakpo is going to be a superstar in this league, Davis has off-the-chart athletic ability, and Cooley is the starting TE on ~25 of the 32 teams in the league.

My point was that, it's good to hear that all the new guys (or at least the vast majority) have had some really nice accolade to their name in this very young training camp but the guys who have been having problems seem to be of the guys that were here already.

Grain of Salt: Tomorrow is day 4 of training camp

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

Oh yeah for sure...I'm not saying by any means that we don't have players to build around. I think Orakpo is going to be a superstar in this league, Davis has off-the-chart athletic ability, and Cooley is the starting TE on ~25 of the 32 teams in the league.

My point was that, it's good to hear that all the new guys (or at least the vast majority) have had some really nice accolade to their name in this very young training camp but the guys who have been having problems seem to be of the guys that were here already.

Grain of Salt: Tomorrow is day 4 of training camp

I understand what you were saying, and I just wanted to point out positives of some players still on the team.

I like hearing all of the new guys playing well to. The FO hopefully hit on some of the new vets and rookies, and this is an abosolute must if the Redskins are going to be a good team this year.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

Anyone else noticing how all the players that Shanahan and Allen have brought in seem to be doing pretty well -- Galloway, Grossman, Williams (Trent and Roydell), Larry Johnson, McNabb, Austin etc. -- but the guys who are struggling a little bit -- Haynesworth, Thomas, Kelly, Brennan -- are all holdovers from the Zorn/Cerrato regime?

Maybe I'm reading a little too much into it and it's only the third day of camp but it's good to know these new guys are making good impressions.

HTTR

Why not extend it back to the Gibbs era since Cerrato played some sort of role in it too? It's not like Zorn had that large of a say in the FO decisions except for maybe a few pointers on what his version of the WCO wanted.