ESPN Say's Newton To Enter Draft

[Son Of Man]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Jerry Jones creating a bit of a buzz with Cam Newton

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If the Cowgirls get Cam, it will bite us in the ass twice a year!

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Jerry Jones creating a bit of a buzz with Cam Newton

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Typical offseason cowpoke headline - they (or just JJ) can create a 'story' out of simple due diligence in draft preparations. Sure, they may have legitimate interest, or this could be like the skins talking to JaMarcus Russell & having him work out before the draft.

If you're picking in the top 15 why wouldn't you talk to Cam?

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

Typical offseason cowpoke headline - they (or just JJ) can create a 'story' out of simple due diligence in draft preparations. Sure, they may have legitimate interest, or this could be like the skins talking to JaMarcus Russell & having him work out before the draft.

If you're picking in the top 15 why wouldn't you talk to Cam?

I doubt the interest is real. It's probably just pre-emptive espionage. IE, our division rival might draft him so lets give him an in depth interview to get an idea of what makes him tick.

[SmootSmack]

So what do you all think of Gabbert choosing not to throw at the combine?

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

So what do you all think of Gabbert choosing not to throw at the combine?

Hurts him imo

[SOUL-SKINS]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

So what do you all think of Gabbert choosing not to throw at the combine?

I think it hurts him. I def think he will be there at 10. So if Shanny likes him he's ours. I hope we take him.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

So what do you all think of Gabbert choosing not to throw at the combine?

If it not due to injury, I think it raises flags.

[MTK]

Not throwing at the combine is no big deal. He'll have his private workouts to show how well he can throw in shorts and a t-shirt.

[warriorzpath]

After seeing a lot of reference back to Aaron Rodgers, I was trying to determine what was different about him and Alex Smith and Jason Campbell coming out of college in the same draft year.

They all seemed to be talented, even though Alex Smith was preceived to be on another level -- which was indicated by their draft positions. So it wasn't something that only the nfl scouts saw.

I know it wasn't about winning because in Jason Campbell's senior year, Auburn finished undefeated and ranked #2.

So what was it in Rodgers that was different coming out of college -- that we should look for in a qb coming out of the draft this year (or any other year for that matter)?

Or is it an intangible trait that you can't really measure or discover until after the qb's been drafted?

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

After seeing a lot of reference back to Aaron Rodgers, I was trying to determine what was different about him and Alex Smith and Jason Campbell coming out of college in the same draft year.

They all seemed to be talented, even though Alex Smith was preceived to be on another level -- which was indicated by their draft positions. So it wasn't something that only the nfl scouts saw.

I know it wasn't about winning because in Jason Campbell's senior year, Auburn finished undefeated and ranked #2.

So what was it in Rodgers that was different coming out of college -- that we should look for in a qb coming out of the draft this year (or any other year for that matter)?

Or is it an intangible trait that you can't really measure or discover until after the qb's been drafted?

Dilfer says it's the coaching/system changes EVERY year for Smith; that he's extremely talented and smart but never has the time to settle into a system. Same could be said for Campbell to a lesser extent, well except the extremely smart part.

Rodgers well.. smart.. same system, chance to learn, etc

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Dilfer says it's the coaching/system changes EVERY year for Smith; that he's extremely talented and smart but never has the time to settle into a system. Same could be said for Campbell to a lesser extent, well except the extremely smart part.

Rodgers well.. smart.. same system, chance to learn, etc

So what you're saying is - the qb needs to be extremely talented and smart, and is drafted with an nfl team that provides him a system with stability and a chance to learn.

So even though a quarterback needs to be talented and smart, it appears that the success of quarterback probably has more to do with the team that drafts him and the position that's he's put in. I think you're on to something, but I think you've just scratched the surface on this.

[wilsowilso]

I keep hearing people compare QB prospects to D McNabb using DM as the type of player you don't want to draft.

The guy is only a borderline Hall of Famer.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

I keep hearing people compare QB prospects to D McNabb using DM as the type of player you don't want to draft.

The guy is only a borderline Hall of Famer.

As an Eagle though. As a Redskin in Shanahan's system he's a cautionary tale.

[skinsfaninok]

Shanny made Plummer a very solid QB, locker is a better overall athlete than Jake IMO. If we don't draft locker or Gabbert I'd just assume not take a QB this yr

[skinsfaninok]

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