Championship Weekend Games Thread

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

It's been enjoyable to say the least to see helping after helping of crow being served. Watching all the flak directed at Cutler on Sunday was horrifying. The worst being Phillip Rivers used as a reference, while conviently leaving out the fact that Rivers needed a procedure to help him play That's not to take away from what Rivers did but this absurd idea that Cutler could have gone back the same day. As doctors have pointed out Cutler would have missed around a month worth of games for this same injury and he most certainly wouldn't have been able to play the same day.

Rivers also didn't return in the same game he was pulled, thus destroying all the "hinting" the Rivers return IN THE SAME GAME while Cutler didn't.

That said, all the hate is in part due to the couch potato fan's inability to "get" what it feels like to be out their in the ****ing cold with 280+ lbs guys bearing down on you almost every play and having to overcome intense pain from a busted knee, which they likely never experience.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Rivers also didn't return in the same game he was pulled, thus destroying all the "hinting" the Rivers return IN THE SAME GAME while Cutler didn't.

That said, all the hate is in part due to the couch potato fan's inability to "get" what it feels like to be out their in the ****ing cold with 280+ lbs guys bearing down on you almost every play and having to overcome intense pain from a busted knee, which they likely never experience.

Hate to sound insensitive, but that's pretty much what you sign up for when you're playing quarterback in the NFL. Look at the guys who played with broken bones and other injuries decades ago for little or no money.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Hate to sound insensitive, but that's pretty much what you sign up for when you're playing quarterback in the NFL. Look at the guys who played with broken bones and other injuries decades ago for little or no money.

So you're saying Rivers re-entered the same game he got knocked out in when the historical record CLEARLY says otherwise. It's on NFL.com. Volek took those snaps. But hey, history isn't about facts, now is it?

Cutler doesn't have a next week to get "miracle" surgery to then post a sub-50 rating the next game like Rivers did.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

So you're saying Rivers re-entered the same game he got knocked out in when the historical record CLEARLY says otherwise. It's on NFL.com. Volek took those snaps. But hey, history isn't about facts, now is it?

Cutler doesn't have a next week to get "miracle" surgery to then post a sub-50 rating the next game like Rivers did.

Who Rivers? I have no idea, I'm just stating a general statement that back in the day when the guys got little or no pay, they played with broken bones...

[Giantone]

Kinda torn here becuase I'm old school ....play till it falls off or put dirt on it and it will get better school!Yet all we have to do is see how teams and Doctors of teams and trainers are all under scrutiny now ,I think the person people should be looking at is Lovey Smith............if it was his call and I'm hearing it was....he needs to come out and say something.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Kinda torn here becuase I'm old school ....play till it falls off or put dirt on it and it will get better school!Yet all we have to do is see how teams and Doctors of teams and trainers are all under scrutiny now ,I think the person people should be looking at is Lovey Smith............if it was his call and I'm hearing it was....he needs to come out and say something.

I think it's the medical staff's call, not Lovey's. Jay said he wanted to play, but after that first series, they told him to shut it down.


I'm getting a huge laugh at all these nerds (reporters, fans,etc) claiming how he's a pussy and how they would have done this or that. Listen, most of these chumps hating on Cutler call in sick to work when they have a slight head ache, never the less a level 2 sprain MCL trying to play a violent game. That Rivers crap people keep talking about fail to mention that Rivers came out of that game he was actually hurt in. Where was the hate there? He had a procedure and played 6 days later. Stupidly mind you, but he played.

It's a shame the media is the way it is, but it's part of the overall problem our country has.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Kinda torn here becuase I'm old school ....play till it falls off or put dirt on it and it will get better school!Yet all we have to do is see how teams and Doctors of teams and trainers are all under scrutiny now ,I think the person people should be looking at is Lovey Smith............if it was his call and I'm hearing it was....he needs to come out and say something.

Like I said before the doctors are given the final authority to decide who stays out and who gets to go back in. With Cutler, after he came limping off the field the training staff tried to treat him after which they had him attempt dropping back on the sidelines before letting him go back to play. Cutler was unable to plant his foot properly, along with other test led the training staff to believe that Cutler wasn't fit to come back into play. Based on the grade 2 MCL tear/sprain that was discovered after the game the doctors made the right choice.

[MTK]

The body language thing with Cutler has been well documented. It's not just a fan overreaction, anytime you hear an analyst talk about the guy, they always bring it up. That and the fact he's not known as being a leader.

Heck just this morning on Mike & Mike they asked Herm Edwards if he would want him as his QB if he was coaching. He mentioned the body language and his crappy attitude, and how he's not the type of leader he looks for. He did say he loves his talent though.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

The body language thing with Cutler has been well documented. It's not just a fan overreaction, anytime you hear an analyst talk about the guy, they always bring it up. That and the fact he's not known as being a leader.

Heck just this morning on Mike & Mike they asked Herm Edwards if he would want him as his QB if he was coaching. He mentioned the body language and his crappy attitude, and how he's not the type of leader he looks for. He did say he loves his talent though.

Love listening to Herm Edwards and he was 100% correct. Cutler's body language is so pathetic. Great talent but he's got some Jeff George in him. Chicago isn't going to win with him.

Kind of off the subject but some guys you'd have to kill them to get them out of the line up. As annoying and Hollywood as Joe Theismann was, you had to snap his leg off to get him outta there. Phil Simms was the same way. Just a few examples.

[MTK]

I think what is really fueling this story is not the media's overreaction for once, but how his fellow NFL players reacted so strongly before the game was even over. That's what is so interesting.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I think what is really fueling this story is not the media's overreaction for once, but how his fellow NFL players reacted so strongly before the game was even over. That's what is so interesting.

It has been reported from years ago when Cutler was on the Broncos, that players on other teams and some on Cutler's own team felt that Cutler's past behavior was childish, poor and really lacking in class. Bad karma is a bitch. Cutler did not just fall off a turnip truck and is getting this poor treatment. He earned it by behaving like a child.
That being said it should not be happening to such a degree. The guy losing game the way he did and crying in the press conference and getting slammed in the press is enough. Let the guy lick his wounds.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

It has been reported from years ago when Cutler was on the Broncos, that players on other teams and some on Cutler's own team felt that Cutler's past behavior was childish, poor and really lacking in class. Bad karma is a bitch. Cutler did not just fall off a turnip truck and is getting this poor treatment. He earned it by behaving like a child.
That being said it should not be happening to such a degree. The guy losing game the way he did and crying in the press conference and getting slammed in the press is enough. Let the guy lick his wounds.

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[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

It has been reported from years ago when Cutler was on the Broncos, that players on other teams and some on Cutler's own team felt that Cutler's past behavior was childish, poor and really lacking in class. Bad karma is a bitch. Cutler did not just fall off a turnip truck and is getting this poor treatment. He earned it by behaving like a child.
That being said it should not be happening to such a degree. The guy losing game the way he did and crying in the press conference and getting slammed in the press is enough. Let the guy lick his wounds.

If Cutler has shown evidence of being "childish, poor, and really lacking in class," then he has "earned" a reputation for that.

But no one ever "earns" being hammered without evidence. And everyone who took him apart without knowing how bad his injury was did just that.

The problem isn't the degree to which he has garnered hate lately. The problem is that he was essentially convicted without trial or evidence.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Lotus

If Cutler has shown evidence of being "childish, poor, and really lacking in class," then he has "earned" a reputation for that.

But no one ever "earns" being hammered without evidence. And everyone who took him apart without knowing how bad his injury was did just that.

The problem isn't the degree to which he has garnered hate lately. The problem is that he was essentially convicted without trial or evidence.

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Wilcots directs this primarily at the players, but w/e.

[Monkeydad]

Face it, Cutler is done in Chicago now.


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