Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Draft Day Breakdown from Jaws

At the very least we can understand why Shanahan might have ranked Beck above Quinn, Kolb, and Russel on draft day.

Also funny to see Kipers best available during the draft.



I feel that you're right to be skeptical as it relates to Beck. However if arm strength is what you're worried about, well lets just say Beck has you covered

From the 36 YL to the 1...that's 63 yards exactly.

[FRPLG]

I believe this draft class is pretty weak. Almost every one of them was taken higher than they really should have been compared to recent history. I agree we have not taken care of the future at QB. I am not convinced any of the futures offered to us in the draft were worth pursuing.

[MTK]

Next year will be the time to grab a QB of the future.

[Son Of Man]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Next year will be the time to grab a QB of the future.

I have to reluctantly agree. I am a huge Locker fan, but after he was taken at #8 we were SOL. IMO it would have been even worse if the FO then just took a QB (who they weren't sold on as potentially being "the guy") just to say we got one. If the guy you beleive in isn't there, then move on to other positions of need. I'm surprised by some of the criticism. Like taking a 5th or 6th round QB was going to make us a better football team?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Son Of Man

I have to reluctantly agree. I am a huge Locker fan, but after he was taken at #8 we were SOL. IMO it would have been even worse if the FO then just took a QB (who they weren't sold on as potentially being "the guy") just to say we got one. If the guy you beleive in isn't there, then move on to other positions of need. I'm surprised by some of the criticism. Like taking a 5th or 6th round QB was going to make us a better football team?

Definitely not, for this year at least. Depending on how long the CBA situation drags out, the potential impact for a rookie QB could be minimal this year.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by Son Of Man

I have to reluctantly agree. I am a huge Locker fan, but after he was taken at #8 we were SOL. IMO it would have been even worse if the FO then just took a QB (who they weren't sold on as potentially being "the guy") just to say we got one. If the guy you beleive in isn't there, then move on to other positions of need. I'm surprised by some of the criticism. Like taking a 5th or 6th round QB was going to make us a better football team?

May I point out that Tom Brady was a 6th round pick?

May I point out that Matt Cassel was a 7th round pick?

May I point out that Ryan Fitzpatrick was a 7th round pick?

May I point out that Bruce Gradkowski was a 6th round pick?


There are plenty of starts among that group and more than a couple of wins too. The trick in later rounds is to find the hidden gem. To show what I mean by that statement:

May I point out that Colt Brennan was a 6th round pick?

[Son Of Man]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

May I point out that Tom Brady was a 6th round pick?

May I point out that Matt Cassel was a 7th round pick?

May I point out that Ryan Fitzpatrick was a 7th round pick?

May I point out that Bruce Gradkowski was a 6th round pick?


There are plenty of starts among that group and more than a couple of wins too. The trick in later rounds is to find the hidden gem. To show what I mean by that statement:

May I point out that Colt Brennan was a 6th round pick?

More exceptions than rule here.

BTW- Only one of those guys is a winner.

Now, how many other QB's (since Brady was taken in 2000) in the mid - late rounds have been taken versus those who you are throwing up to prove your point? I have no interest in inveting the time to do the research but will take a flyer and say there is less than a 10% sucess rate.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Next year will be the time to grab a QB of the future.

Really? Who besides Luck

[skinsfanthru&thru]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Really? Who besides Luck

Barkley out of USC gets better and better each year and has the mobility needed to run this offense. Then there's also Foles from Arizona, Pryor from OSU, or Jones from Oklahoma if he declares early.

[Son Of Man]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Really? Who besides Luck

Matt Barkley- USC
Tyler Wilson- Arkansas
Brandon Weeden- OSU
Landry Jones- OU
Kirk Cousins- Michigan State


*In no particular order.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Son Of Man

Matt Barkley- USC
Tyler Wilson- Arkansas
Brandon Weeden- OSU
Landry Jones- OU
Kirk Cousins- Michigan State


*In no particular order.

WHO?


And Landry Jones has a chance to become a Mallett type QB but thats yet to be seen

[mredskins]

Hopefully we get the number one pick next year or someone like CAR (that is set at QB or not willing to draft another QB) has it and is willing to trade. I love to have Andrew Luck.

[MTK]

Luck is the only QB coming out? lol


Kipers top 5 QBs for 2012 (draft eligible)

1. Andrew Luck
2. Nick Foles
3. Kirk Cousins
4. Brandon Weeden
5. Ryan Tannehill

Analysis: This is an interesting list right off the bat. Luck will command the most attention, for sure. Even with a new coach, he will be a front-runner for No. 1 in the 2012 NFL draft from August onward. Weeden put up video-game-esque numbers in Stillwater and could do it again with WR Justin Blackmon returning. Weeden does lose his O-coordinator. Foles has all the measurables.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Luck is the only QB coming out? lol


Kipers top 5 QBs for 2012 (draft eligible)

1. Andrew Luck
2. Nick Foles
3. Kirk Cousins
4. Brandon Weeden
5. Ryan Tannehill

Analysis: This is an interesting list right off the bat. Luck will command the most attention, for sure. Even with a new coach, he will be a front-runner for No. 1 in the 2012 NFL draft from August onward. Weeden put up video-game-esque numbers in Stillwater and could do it again with WR Justin Blackmon returning. Weeden does lose his O-coordinator. Foles has all the measurables.

Weeden is about 27 years old, played baseball for a few years. Reminds me of Chad Hutchinson.

I like Nick Foles

Kirk Cousins looks decent but not better than Gabbert or Mallett IMO.

[CrustyRedskin]

SHould have taken Mallett.