Skins vs Bears postgame

[Jayroc24]

So what everyones thoughts on how they will try and contain Manning? Are they are going to have sell out and and play pass every down? It will be interesting to see what Haslett comes up with given the personnel he will have at his disposal. Hopefully Rambo finally shows up and Gumbs comes through....

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Jayroc24

So what everyones thoughts on how they will try and contain Manning? Are they are going to have sell out and and play pass every down? It will be interesting to see what Haslett comes up with given the personnel he will have at his disposal. Hopefully Rambo finally shows up and Gumbs comes through....

I feel like we'll definitely see a heavy dose of the running game, they'll probably try to keep Peyton off the field by controlling the clock. I definitely think there's a good chance Peyton will pick us apart when he has the ball, so our best chance of winning is by not letting him have the ball.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by mooby

I feel like we'll definitely see a heavy dose of the running game, they'll probably try to keep Peyton off the field by controlling the clock. I definitely think there's a good chance Peyton will pick us apart when he has the ball, so our best chance of winning is by not letting him have the ball.

The rules pretty much prevent us from keeping the ball away from Peyton Manning. No matter how well the Redskins can sustain their drives, they still have to kick the ball back to Manning at the conclusion of the drive.

But with that in mind, I'd put in at least one surprise onside kick play to try and steal a possession (as well as not having to cover a kick) from Denver.

What would absolutely kill us is if Shanahan pusses out and kicks a field goal in a fourth and short situation. That would be the very definition of beating oneself.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

The rules pretty much prevent us from keeping the ball away from Peyton Manning. No matter how well the Redskins can sustain their drives, they still have to kick the ball back to Manning at the conclusion of the drive.

But with that in mind, I'd put in at least one surprise onside kick play to try and steal a possession (as well as not having to cover a kick) from Denver.

What would absolutely kill us is if Shanahan pusses out and kicks a field goal in a fourth and short situation. That would be the very definition of beating oneself.

True but you can still limit his TOP by using the run game. Obviously the Broncos will be aware that we are definitely going to try and run the ball, because that not only eats up clock, but really allows us to go out and execute our offense, but at the end of the day we still have to execute.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by mooby

True but you can still limit his TOP by using the run game. Obviously the Broncos will be aware that we are definitely going to try and run the ball, because that not only eats up clock, but really allows us to go out and execute our offense, but at the end of the day we still have to execute.

Aren't the Broncos a lot better vs the run than the pass though?

I agree that we're going to have to run a bit to execute our full offense. We're really not talented enough to sit back and chuck it the way Dallas did for an entire half against them.

I don't think it's a secret that the only way to beat the Broncos is for the offense to put up a bunch of TDs early, and then let the defense take advantage of the depleted Broncos OL. Only problem is "score a bunch of touchdowns" is going to be task of execution, rather than something you can design before the game. If only it were that easy.

BTW, I'm watching the Colts-Redskins game from 2010 right now and Garcon just got behind the defense for a first quarter touchdown. We should totally go get that guy.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Jayroc24

So what everyones thoughts on how they will try and contain Manning? Are they are going to have sell out and and play pass every down? It will be interesting to see what Haslett comes up with given the personnel he will have at his disposal. Hopefully Rambo finally shows up and Gumbs comes through....

They have a few guys out on their o-line. Gotta get pressure and knock him around a bit. Can't let him sit back there and have all day or we have no chance. But the NFL is in love with Peyton so anyone that touches him is subject to a fine/suspension.

[GTripp0012]

I mean, they'll sell out and challenge his declining arm strength and force him to throw down the field with pressure on him. Manning will respond probably by using that tunnel screen he loved so much. He used that a lot in 2010.

I think I trust our corners against their quick passing game. Gotta bring a lot of pressure this week because there's nothing the Redskins can do if they leave their safeties back in coverage.

I think we're about as strong a team from scrimmage as we're capable of being. If the game was just offense and defense, the Redskins would have a pretty decent chance this week. Problem is the special teams disparity is going to be somewhere between 10 and 14 points in this game that we have to make up elsewhere (Denver is better at special teams than any other team in football), and I don't think we're quite good enough offensively to make up that disparity.

[KI Skins Fan]

I think the only way for the Skins to beat the Broncos is for the Skins to get the ball last in a shootout.

Let's just accept that they are going to score a lot of points. With that as a given, I would take chances on defense, hoping for a turnover or two.

On offense, I would scour the playbook for some plays to use that nobody has seen yet this season.

On Special Teams, I would empasize kicking the ball through the endzone on kickoffs and out of bounds on punts. I would rather have a 30-yard net punt than let them have a 70-yard punt return for a TD.

A win against the Broncos would be huge! I say throw caution to the wind and try to steal one in Denver.

[GTripp0012]

Is this the thread to point out that LaRon Landry, who is not here in part because of his propensity for personal fouls, is rated as a top ten safety this year by PFF? I know a team that could use that kind of player!

[mooby]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Is this the thread to point out that LaRon Landry, who is not here in part because of his propensity for personal fouls, is rated as a top ten safety this year by PFF? I know a team that could use that kind of player!

That's great for him, but what does living in the past do for us? He's not here anymore, and when he was here, he was constantly injured and refusing surgery to treat his injuries. Best of luck to him, because I'd rather focus on who we have on the team.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by mooby

That's great for him, but what does living in the past do for us? He's not here anymore, and when he was here, he was constantly injured and refusing surgery to treat his injuries. Best of luck to him, because I'd rather focus on who we have on the team.

It is no less depressing to focus on the safeties that are here.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Is this the thread to point out that LaRon Landry, who is not here in part because of his propensity for personal fouls, is rated as a top ten safety this year by PFF? I know a team that could use that kind of player!

He still can't cover anyone. He might as well have changed positions and played OLB.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Is this the thread to point out that LaRon Landry, who is not here in part because of his propensity for personal fouls, is rated as a top ten safety this year by PFF? I know a team that could use that kind of player!

Personal fouls? How can you have a personal foul when you go for the knock out hit and miss your target like LL did 90% of the time.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Personal fouls? How can you have a personal foul when you go for the knock out hit and miss your target like LL did 90% of the time.

Man of mystery that guy was.

[skinsfan69]

The first hit on Jeffrey was 100% legal. To me that's a football play and a little bit of targeting there. Just like the hit last week against Suh on Weedon. The NFL is out to get some guys. 30k for a completely legal hit? C'mon... If ST was still alive and playing I'm not sure he could even play in today's cream puff league.

What's so frustrating is Merton Hanks is the main culprit who's handing out these fines and suspensions. He was a DB so I'm not sure why he goes so overboard with it.