RG3 and Gruden?

[skinsfaninok]

Gruden deserves one more year but if he is gone I hope we try and get a young hungry guy again like josh Mcd.

[KI Skins Fan]

I suspect that only a coach with many years of experience at the HC level could possibly succeed as the HC in Dan Snyder's organization.

[irish]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I suspect that only a coach with many years of experience at the HC level could possibly succeed as the HC in Dan Snyder's organization.

You mean someone like Mike Shannahan?

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by irish

You mean someone like Mike Shannahan?

Yes, I do; but not Mike Shannahan. I mean someone who has enough experience as an NFL HC to manage the people above him as well as those under him but someone who just wants to coach football and who can work with a competent GM and professional personnel people. Needless to say, there would need to be changes in the FO, as well.

That someone would have been around long enough to be able to assemble one of the best coaching staffs in the league to help him get the job done. Also, he doesn't need to be HC for more than 5 years before he turns the team over to an outstanding young coach who he has groomed for the job, so his age is not important.

[irish]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Yes, I do; but not Mike Shannahan. I mean someone who has enough experience as an NFL HC to manage the people above him as well as those under him but someone who just wants to coach football and who can work with a competent GM and professional personnel people. Needless to say, there would need to be changes in the FO, as well.

That someone would have been around long enough to be able to assemble one of the best coaching staffs in the league to help him get the job done. Also, he doesn't need to be HC for more than 5 years before he turns the team over to an outstanding young coach who he has groomed for the job, so his age is not important.

MS started his coaching career in 1975 as a college assistant. He worked his way up the ranks and had 13 years of head coaching experience with Denver. I think he showed he was able to work with a competent GM and professional people. Unfortunately he didnt have those people to work with in Washington. We wont even get into him grooming Kyle to take over for him like you want because for some reason people held that against him.

I doubt you can find someone with more experience and better meets your criteria than that.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by irish

MS started his coaching career in 1975 as a college assistant. He worked his way up the ranks and had 13 years of head coaching experience with Denver. I think he showed he was able to work with a competent GM and professional people. Unfortunately he didnt have those people to work with in Washington. We wont even get into him grooming Kyle to take over for him like you want because for some reason people held that against him.

I doubt you can find someone with more experience and better meets your criteria than that.

So, is it hopeless, then?

[Hog1]

Hey boys....glad to be back with the....Maroon and Gold

[Hijinx]

I wish Todd Bowles had not signed that big extension with the Cards. But I don't know if he would take this job.

[diehardskin2982]

IMO the follow staff changes should occur...

HC- Retained
OC- Retained
DC- Fired
STC- Retained

QB Coach- Hired
OLB Coach- New DC's Choice
ASTC- Retained
DLC- New DC's Choice
OLC- Fired
AOLC - Fired
WRC- Retained
RBC- Retained
DBC- Fired
TEC Retained

I would seek to hire Wade Phillips, Kirby Smart, or Jerry Gray.

AJ Smith name VP-GM hires recruiting staff. Bruce Allen Retains president position.

I believe RG3 deserves another shot here. It takes really 2 years to recover from a knee injury and he has all the tools, just needs to be coached up, confidence rebuilt.

[SFREDSKIN]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/five-re...08530-nfl.html

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/five-re...08530-nfl.html

great read. I totally agree with it. It is why I say both jay and robert will be here this time next year.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/five-re...08530-nfl.html

I stopped reading as soon as they tried to draw comparison to Rodgers. His future was in doubt because Favre decided to come back and the Packers were going to trade Rodgers. His future was not in doubt because he sucked.


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[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I stopped reading as soon as they tried to draw comparison to Rodgers. His future was in doubt because Favre decided to come back and the Packers were going to trade Rodgers. His future was not in doubt because he sucked.


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You should have kept reading. There's not a lot of articles about Griffin being wrote anymore that aren't just piling on the negativity. It's a good read.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

You should have kept reading. There's not a lot of articles about Griffin being wrote anymore that aren't just piling on the negativity. It's a good read.

You convinced me to read it. The problem is that the article is based on the premise that with health and confidence back RG-3 will be great again. What about the fact that the 2012 offense isnt coming back? That teams are able to key on that now like they do with Kap in San Fran?
He alludes to Cooleys breakdown of Griff, but than just brushes that off again with confidence issues. He seems to think it is all mental. Imo Griff is just not a good QB, whether he is "mentally" ready to be one or not. Im mentally ready to be a millionaire, but guess what? Lol.
If Griff is ever a great QB I will be very surprised. If he is ever a great QB in Washington I will be very surprised, and ecstatic. I just dont see it, but Stranger things have happened.


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[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I stopped reading as soon as they tried to draw comparison to Rodgers. His future was in doubt because Favre decided to come back and the Packers were going to trade Rodgers. His future was not in doubt because he sucked.


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I have tried to tell you this before, but you insist that Aaron Rodgers was a cant miss from day one.

The first few years, the Packers started thinking that taking Rodgers was a mistake. He was a Tedford disciple and the Packers had to redo everything about Rodgers when he arrived in GB, his footwork, technique, everything. They didnt think he would ever turn it around those first couple of years.

People think im insane for saying this but... Rodgers would not have made it in the NFL without the complete makeover the Packers gave him.

I also keep trying to say this but people think im also nuts for saying this... Developing QB's in the NFL matters. Not only personal development but also having a good team around them where they dont have to carry a team.

I just wish at some point that we had a coach who would actually do that. I personally differ with you that RG3 cant be a good QB again. Having said that, he may be ruined forever. That still doesnt change that we arent getting one of the greats and need a coach who does more than just say if you cant run my offense, then you arent my guy (Gruden) or one that didnt even try to develop a QB because the choice was pushed onto him (Shanahan).