NFL conference championship weekend

[skinsfan69]

KC should have a chance to get the ball once I feel. But they did have a chance to stop the Pats and they couldn't.

One minute the Pats can spread you out and be a pass happy team, and then the next go back to an I formation ( WITH A FULLBACK GRUDEN, YOU DUMMY) roll up their sleeves and run it right down your throat. In that aspect they remind me of how things use to be around here.

[jamf]

It sounds like people just want a skills competition between Brady and Mahomes instead of a football game.

The Chiefs D gave up 3 TDs to the Patriots in the final 3 drives.
Do we really need to see more of that?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by jamf

It sounds like people just want a skills competition between Brady and Mahomes instead of a football game.

The Chiefs D gave up 3 TDs to the Patriots in the final 3 drives.
Do we really need to see more of that?

Not only that but on the final drive the Pats converted 3 3rd downs. It was like a heavyweight fight and KC's defense just took too many body blows. You're not winning or going to a Super Bowl with the 31st ranked D.

[punch it in]

Tennis : coin flip decides who serves. No.

Baseball: extra innings coin flip to see who bats first. Homerun it is over. No.

Basketball: coin flip decides who gets the ball. They hit a 3 it is over. No.

So why does the winner of a football game have to be based on a coin flip that clearly gives someone an advantage?

Edit/ and don’t say it doesn’t because if the Skins lost a coin flip and the other team got the ball first you would be mad as hell. It totally matters and it is a fucking coin flip. Dumb as fuck. Hey you guys just both lit it up and played your guts out. It is 38-38. We are gonna flip a coin to see who gets a chance to score and end it. Fuuuuuck that.

[mooby]

Punch I know in today's offensive driven league it seems unfair that you have to rely on your defense to win a game in OT if you lose the coin toss, but if anything it should place a higher emphasis on fielding a good D. Not only can having a good D give you a chance in OT games where you lose the coin toss, it also helps winning championships too.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by mooby

Punch I know in today's offensive driven league it seems unfair that you have to rely on your defense to win a game in OT if you lose the coin toss, but if anything it should place a higher emphasis on fielding a good D. Not only can having a good D give you a chance in OT games where you lose the coin toss, it also helps winning championships too.

Of course man you always want a good D. Im just not sure why we are acting like giving both teams a chance to score a TD is going to end the world. Lol. I have not heard one actual reason yet why the current rule is better.
Oh and you know why it “seems” unfair? Because it is.
Building your defense to stop a team in OT is as ridiculous as the rule itself, but I cannot even entertain that as a good reason because the rules almost make it impossible to build a great defense. It is offensive driven by design not chance. That doesn’t suddenly change after 4 quarters.

[NC_Skins]

Fuck Brady and the Patriots, but you can't even be mad at this. Quite hilarious and well played.

https://twitter.com/TylerSully/statu...34157443510272

[punch it in]

I’ll make this simple for all of you arguing that the coin toss has nothing to do with the outcome of a game. Skins are in OT. Coin flip about to happen. Are you hoping they win? Say it doesn’t matter and you are lying. Lol. And you want to win it because it makes your path to victory easier. You either have to stop the other team and than score. Or just score. Seems like a freakin no brainer to me. I wanna win that meaningless coin flip every meaningless game.

[MTK]

Of course getting the ball first is what you want, but let’s stop oversimplifying the argument by saying the coin flip decides the game. The coin flip winner wins about 52% of the time so it’s not game over to lose the flip.



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[punch it in]

Originally Posted by MTK

Of course getting the ball first is what you want, but let’s stop oversimplifying the argument by saying the coin flip decides the game. The coin flip winner wins about 52% of the time so it’s not game over to lose the flip.



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Not saying it is the end all be all. But why not make a stupid coin toss absolutely meaningless and just give both teams a chance to score a TD?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Not saying it is the end all be all. But why not make a stupid coin toss absolutely meaningless and just give both teams a chance to score a TD?

I’m actually fine with that for playoffs OT

I just don’t think it’s a pressing issue that is dying to be changed this red hot minute



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[punch it in]

The True Stats Of NFL Overtime
Stats on Overtime Coin Tosses (1974-2003)

The NFL has had 325 overtime games since the rule was adopted in 1974. The results:

Both teams have had possession 235 times (72.3%).
The team that has won the toss has won 169 times (52.0%).
The team that has lost the toss has won 141 times (43.4%).
223 games were decided by a field goal (68.6%).
86 games were decided by a TD (26.5%).
One game was decided by a safety (0.3%).
There have been 15 ties (4.6%).
It seems fair but these numbers are somewhat misleading because in 1994 a rule changed moved the kickoff back 5 yards to the 30 yard line (those numbers were based on data from 1973-2003). Since then, it's been about 60%. Prior to the rule change, the coin toss had no predictive value for deciding who would eventually win the game. Since 1994, the coin flip winner has a clear advantage.

TL;DR There is a fairly significant statistical advantage for the team that wins the toss. More than 25% of teams that lost the coin toss never touched the ball. Since 1994, the team that won the overtime coin toss won the game 34.4 percent of the time on the first possession and have won about 60% of the time total.

[jamf]

Originally Posted by punch it in

The True Stats Of NFL Overtime
Stats on Overtime Coin Tosses (1974-2003)

The NFL has had 325 overtime games since the rule was adopted in 1974. The results:

Both teams have had possession 235 times (72.3%).
The team that has won the toss has won 169 times (52.0%).
The team that has lost the toss has won 141 times (43.4%).
223 games were decided by a field goal (68.6%).
86 games were decided by a TD (26.5%).
One game was decided by a safety (0.3%).
There have been 15 ties (4.6%).
It seems fair but these numbers are somewhat misleading because in 1994 a rule changed moved the kickoff back 5 yards to the 30 yard line (those numbers were based on data from 1973-2003). Since then, it's been about 60%. Prior to the rule change, the coin toss had no predictive value for deciding who would eventually win the game. Since 1994, the coin flip winner has a clear advantage.

TL;DR There is a fairly significant statistical advantage for the team that wins the toss. More than 25% of teams that lost the coin toss never touched the ball. Since 1994, the team that won the overtime coin toss won the game 34.4 percent of the time on the first possession and have won about 60% of the time total.

Before 2012, a FG would end the game.
Check out the numbers since the TD overtime rule was implemented
https://mobile.twitter.com/SandoESPN...45109874298881

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by punch it in

The True Stats Of NFL Overtime
Stats on Overtime Coin Tosses (1974-2003)

The NFL has had 325 overtime games since the rule was adopted in 1974. The results:

Both teams have had possession 235 times (72.3%).
The team that has won the toss has won 169 times (52.0%).
The team that has lost the toss has won 141 times (43.4%).
223 games were decided by a field goal (68.6%).
86 games were decided by a TD (26.5%).
One game was decided by a safety (0.3%).
There have been 15 ties (4.6%).
It seems fair but these numbers are somewhat misleading because in 1994 a rule changed moved the kickoff back 5 yards to the 30 yard line (those numbers were based on data from 1973-2003). Since then, it's been about 60%. Prior to the rule change, the coin toss had no predictive value for deciding who would eventually win the game. Since 1994, the coin flip winner has a clear advantage.

TL;DR There is a fairly significant statistical advantage for the team that wins the toss. More than 25% of teams that lost the coin toss never touched the ball. Since 1994, the team that won the overtime coin toss won the game 34.4 percent of the time on the first possession and have won about 60% of the time total.

Kevin Sheehan just said on today's podcast that since the rule change only 19.7% of games which went to overtime were won or lost on the first possession by a TD score.

The team that wins the toss does win 52% of the games but how does that matter if both teams get to possess the ball on 80.3% of overtime games?

I just don't think this is a big deal.

A coin toss didn't decide the game, KC's bottom of the barrel defense did.

There were three 3rd and 10s and Brady converted.

We'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

Kevin Sheehan just said on today's podcast that since the rule change only 19.7% of games which went to overtime were won or lost on the first possession by a TD score.



The team that wins the toss does win 52% of the games but how does that matter if both teams get to possess the ball on 80.3% of overtime games?



I just don't think this is a big deal.



A coin toss didn't decide the game, KC's bottom of the barrel defense did.



There were three 3rd and 10s and Brady converted.



We'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

It matters because one team is getting two chances while the other gets one.