What happens with Kyle Smith?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Laugh all you want, watch their draft vs ours, that will tell you. He also took 3 scouts with him.

Kyle has hit on some and missed on some. He isn't waving a magic wan.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Kyle has hit on some and missed on some. He isn't waving a magic wan.

Everybody hits on some and misses on some. In baseball, getting a hit 3 times out of 10 consistently is considered elite.

Even the best ones in our league still miss. Doesn't mean they aren't good at their jobs. The best ones just hit more than they miss.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by mooby

Everybody hits on some and misses on some. In baseball, getting a hit 3 times out of 10 consistently is considered elite.

Even the best ones in our league still miss. Doesn't mean they aren't good at their jobs. The best ones just hit more than they miss.

The last 2 drafts by Washington have been the NFL’s best, some of our 4th rounders like Charles and AGG will pan out next year.

[Scalper]

Originally Posted by mooby

Everybody hits on some and misses on some. In baseball, getting a hit 3 times out of 10 consistently is considered elite.

Even the best ones in our league still miss. Doesn't mean they aren't good at their jobs. The best ones just hit more than they miss.

PFF rates our drafts last 2 years among best in NFL based on rather convoluted metrics that are heavily weighted towards immediate performance/production of players drafted. While these metrics are not gospel, they are a serious attempt to objectively quantify draft success using statistics. The job Smith has done at minimum puts us top-ten in drafting prowess last 2 years, and some would say much higher.

[mooby]

Idk why we need to diss him on the way out. Is it possible he's good at his job? Yes. Is it possible he wasn't a good fit with Ron? Also yes. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

Good luck to him, and I hope we're not regretting this 3 years from now.

[SFREDSKIN]

And in case people doubt who ran the last 3 drafts, read Ben Standing twitter quotes on this link.

https://sports.yahoo.com/reports-kyl...183618094.html

[MTK]

Everyone that worked under Bruce is now gone. That shouldn't be seen as a bad thing ultimately.

[skinsfan69]

Sad to see Kyle go but these things happen when there's change. Obviously Ron and Kyle did not mesh well but there's nothing wrong with that. Ron had full control from the owner. Since he is accountable to Dan then he has the right to bring in the guys that he will work best with. But we are losing a good one, no doubt about that. Not ready to call Smith a savior but he is good at his job..

[sdskinsfan2001]

F*ck Kyle Smith and the bird he flew out on. Go Team!

[Chico23231]

The fact Kyle Smith got a job immediately is again telling that he is highly respected around the league

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

The fact Kyle Smith got a job immediately is again telling that he is highly respected around the league

I don't think anyone, definitely not me, was saying that KS would not be valued as a talent evaluator. The question is simply whether he could be the GM we need or promoted just to be promoted. I think the league also clearly spoke that they didn't see him ready to take the next step yet.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I don't think anyone, definitely not me, was saying that KS would not be valued as a talent evaluator. The question is simply whether he could be the GM we need or promoted just to be promoted. I think the league also clearly spoke that they didn't see him ready to take the next step yet.

And in the end, if it wasn't a good working relationship between him and RR, then he simply had to go.

I'm confident in the current structure, until I have a reason not to be.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

And in the end, if it wasn't a good working relationship between him and RR, then he simply had to go.

I'm confident in the current structure, until I have a reason not to be.

I agree with everything, except I'm not truly confident in the current structure given Hurney and Mayhew haven't done anything super confidence-inspiring. A good draft and improvement on last year's record will go a long way to easing my concerns though.

[HTTR]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

And in the end, if it wasn't a good working relationship between him and RR, then he simply had to go.

I'm confident in the current structure, until I have a reason not to be.

You have one giant reason *not* to be confident until proven otherwise: Dan Snyder.

Being mediocre not only means failing to attract and hire the best and the brightest, but also failing to keep homegrown talent inside the organization. Whenever things start to look promising from Snyder (eg, Gibbs 2.0), they quickly revert to the mean. Sure, this time may turn out better, but the organizational dysfunction is far from resolved.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by HTTR

You have one giant reason *not* to be confident until proven otherwise: Dan Snyder.

Being mediocre not only means failing to attract and hire the best and the brightest, but also failing to keep homegrown talent inside the organization. Whenever things start to look promising from Snyder (eg, Gibbs 2.0), they quickly revert to the mean. Sure, this time may turn out better, but the organizational dysfunction is far from resolved.

That's your reason. I'm fine with being confident until it is proven not to work.

"Homegrown" talent always ends up elsewhere. Where did Belichick come from? Mike Tomlin always been in the Steelers organization? Nope. Andy Reid, Pete Carroll, Sean Payton...all those guys grow up in those organizations? Nope. Bill Parcells...? I could go on and on with head coaches, GMs, etc. Funny thing is people move around when opportunities arise. You can't keep them all, no one does (or can).