Portis is a BIG problem!!!

[over the mountain]

dang, jimmy z doesnt even make roster decisions anymore? i remember him benching portis drew alot of criticism from portis . . .

[SolidSnake84]

I dont know guys i just get the feeling that the players run the team. I'm sure Zorn feels that way too.

I mean Campbell was benched for 1 half, but i bet Snyder or someone told him "you had better go with Jason in the next game or it's your job".

Portis is too tight with Snyder to be benched....and that's an accountability issue. Players shouldn't be that close with owners/coaches....it just skews the authority/accountability issue.

[SmootSmack]

Rock is tight with Snyder as well, but you don't see him vaulting CP and Betts to be the starting RB.

Anyhow, Zorn has final say on who's starting. He didn't say anything on his show today to indicate otherwise

[12thMan]

Damn, CL why you had to go debunking my theory. Everything lined up so nicely too. Especially the little interview I dug up about Portis liking the Saints.

[Swarley]

The difference is that Betts workload has been considerably less that Portis' in his career. So although Betts may be older in age he's much younger in terms of wear and tear. Not arguing one way or the other, just saying.

[dmek25]

im with canton on this. the best players PLAY. even Snyder cant F*** that up, can he? and Betts isn't the best running back on the roster. so why does every one around here always think the back ups are better then the starters? that, and its really easy to switch positions once they come here?

[maroonandblack30]

Originally Posted by dmek25

im with canton on this. the best players PLAY. even Snyder cant F*** that up, can he? and Betts isn't the best running back on the roster. so why does every one around here always think the back ups are better then the starters? that, and its really easy to switch positions once they come here?

Betts is the best back on the roster RIGHT NOW...don't let CP's past stats cloud your judgement about 2009.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by maroonandblack30

Betts is the best back on the roster RIGHT NOW...don't let CP's past stats cloud your judgement about 2009.

would we agree that the skins Oline that played this week was probably the best line they have to offer? lets see what Portis does behind that line before you go and make wild statements. Betts is at best a career back up

[maroonandblack30]

Originally Posted by dmek25

would we agree that the skins Oline that played this week was probably the best line they have to offer? lets see what Portis does behind that line before you go and make wild statements. Betts is at best a career back up

Its definitely not "a wild statement" to say Betts is better.

I wouldn't agree that this this line they have had to offer....Portis had Thomas and Samuels for at least one game...didn't look nearly as good as Betts.

[SolidSnake84]

LMFAO at the comment about the best players play.

That is ABSOLUTLEY not true on the team at this point in time. Doc Walker said it before the season started it, absolutley everybody has said it.

Starting jobs here are anointed. there is no competition...unless injury happens. that's sad.

[SolidSnake84]

I also get so tired of hearing that "Portis is the whole offense"

That's such a ridiculous statement, but if is true....then you see the reason why we ranked like a paltry #28 in overall offense, and only 17 pts a game.

THE VERY FIRST TIME PORTIS DIDNT START....we got out of the losing slump, and Betts ran for 114 yards...so there you go on Portis being the whole offense. I guess it's true. When portis is out, the whole offense opens up.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I also get so tired of hearing that "Portis is the whole offense"

That's such a ridiculous statement, but if is true....then you see the reason why we ranked like a paltry #28 in overall offense, and only 17 pts a game.

THE VERY FIRST TIME PORTIS DIDNT START....we got out of the losing slump, and Betts ran for 114 yards...so there you go on Portis being the whole offense. I guess it's true. When portis is out, the whole offense opens up.

I'm starting to come to the conclusion that the Redskins have what I would call Gilbert Arenas syndrome. When Gil was out the last couple of years other players played extremely well and more cohesively. When Gil returned it look like they lost "something". I wonder if the same thing has been happening to the Skins and Portis.

[irish]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I'm starting to come to the conclusion that the Redskins have what I would call Gilbert Arenas syndrome. When Gil was out the last couple of years other players played extremely well and more cohesively. When Gil returned it look like they lost "something". I wonder if the same thing has been happening to the Skins and Portis.

Very good analagy.

[maroonandblack30]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I'm starting to come to the conclusion that the Redskins have what I would call Gilbert Arenas syndrome. When Gil was out the last couple of years other players played extremely well and more cohesively. When Gil returned it look like they lost "something". I wonder if the same thing has been happening to the Skins and Portis.

I agree...and will speculate that a lot of it has to with having players playing that are hungry and have something to prove.

Portis is the golden child, most likely gets special treatment and throws his teammates under the bus... its probably a whole lot easier to block for a guy who shows up to practice every day, keeps his mouth shut and just does his job....just my opinion.

[SolidSnake84]

I'm just sick of everything that has to do with him now.

I appreciate his contributions to the team...but seriously he hasnt been a factor since halfway last season. He brings nothing to the field anymore other than a bad attitude and poor work ethic.

People would support him and rally for him if he would just change his attitude, but he doesnt care. He is set in his ways and i hope it finds him out of a job soon....The next coach will hopefully see these things, and at least relegate portis to a backup role, if he is not released.