2012 QB Class

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Look, I know you all may think I'm crazy by suggesting we could get Luck, but the thing is this; If we draft in the top ten, top 5 especially, AND St. Louis, Carolina, or Indy have the first overall pick, our team I fully believe will make the trade. Let me break this down some more;

-Should we be drafting in the top 10/5, Shanny and Snyder will be having some long talks about the future, and Shanahan will, I fully believe throw in all his chips into getting Luck should one of those 3 teams have the first pick.
-I know you all think we are a more mature draft team, but always remember, Dan Snyder's the owner, anything can happen. He may say he's out of the picture now that Shanahans here but don't be surprised if he puts himself back in and tells the FO to do whatever they can to get this guy, especially if shanahan really thinks he's a future QB who can turn this team around.
-You all are probably wondering why would Indy give up their pick and trade it to us, should the pick 1st. They owe Peyton Manning a $35 million dollar roster bonus. They give it to him they A) take away millions of dollars of cap space, B) Won't have the money to just go out and pay a #1 overall pick, C) Are saying they believe Peytons Neck is healthy, and are committed to him for atleast another year or two.D) I just don't see the Colts even taking Luck, and letting him set behind Peyton, when Lucks supposed to be one of the most NFL ready QB's ever. (Also I heard on Inside the NFL that the Colts would pass on Luck should Peyton be healthy.)
- Oliver Luck is supposedly Archie Manning Jr., being that he wants his son in the best place. Andrew said he would love to be close to home with his next team. His home right now? Morgantown, WV. IF Indy did have the first overall pick, and were uncertain, I believe Oliver would tell them to give up the pick to someone who definitely wants him.
-Again the draft is so far away prospects are going to be moving up and down constantly and even though Andrew Luck is a consistent first overall pick some guys may move up whom check out a lot better option wise for teams drafting high, but know they can still get that player lower. For example if the Rams pick 1st overall, and we pick 5th, and the Rams have a QB and we are in perfect position to take Alshon Jeffery, I wouldn't be surprised if that happens, and if A.J got drafted that high.

If the Redskin front office is able to trade up to get Andrew Luck, then Allen and Shanahan will indeed draft him. But in giving away multiple picks to the Colts or Dolphins, the Redskins will have to get what they need through FA. They need young veteran wide receivers. If they can target four, they could get two very good ones. In addition, the Redskins already have a young receiving core with Fred Davis, Terrance Austin, and Leonard Hankerson. But knowing Allen and Shanahan, they will also ask in exchange for their picks for additional late picks along with the number 1 overall.

[SmootSmack]

I'm going to go back and watch some of his games.

Watched some more of yesterday's game and I really believe a QB is all we need for a huge difference.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'm going to go back and watch some of his games.

Watched some more of yesterday's game and I really believe a QB is all we need for a huge difference.

I couldn't agree more. Watching receivers get open and Beck not throwing to them couldn't have made it any clearer.

More Harnish stats:

Passing

Year G/GS C-A-I Pct. Yds. TD Lg. Yds/Gm Effic.
2008 10/9 118-211-9 55.9 1528 8 91 152.8 120.7
2009 10/9 143-223-6 64.1 1670 11 45 167.0 136.9
2010 13/3 189-292-5 64.7 2530 21 69 194.6 157.8
Career 33/31 450-726-20 62.0 5728 40 91 173.6 140.9

Rushing

Year G/GS No. Yds. Avg. TD Lg. Yds/Gm
2008 10/9 118 539 4.6 4 32 53.9
2009 10/9 89 229 2.6 2 29 22.9
2010 13/13 137 836 6.1 7 69 64.3
Career 33/31 344 1604 4.7 13 69 48.6

He has improved every year.

[skinsfaninok]

I'd honestly go with RGIII that kid is a baller and is a way better passer than many people see, I've seen Folks in here say he's just a typical running QB but that's far from true

[53Fan]

I don't think Harnish would be the first QB we take. But Shanny may want him in the later rounds as a developmental type QB if he see's potential in him.

[SOUL-SKINS]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

I don't think Harnish would be the first QB we take. But Shanny may want him in the later rounds as a developmental type QB if he see's potential in him.

Yea I'm down with that ... We do need two qb's. I just want Rex and Beck gone.

[CultBrennan59]

SS

I've been hyping up Kellen Moore since last year. I agree we should get this guy. BUT having said that, I asked some of my football friends what they think of Kellen. They brought up good points to me.

-what makes him different from John Beck?
-What, besides running, makes him different from Tim Tebow?
-what makes him completely different from Colt Brennan?

Heisman Watch: Kellen Moore - Video - SI.com

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

SS

I've been hyping up Kellen Moore since last year. I agree we should get this guy. BUT having said that, I asked some of my football friends what they think of Kellen. They brought up good points to me.

-what makes him different from John Beck?
-What, besides running, makes him different from Tim Tebow?
-what makes him completely different from Colt Brennan?

Heisman Watch: Kellen Moore - Video - SI.com

-He's a good QB
-He has a stronger, more accurate arm. Better pocket presence
-You know what, at this point I'd even give Colt a call and see if he wants to QB for us the rest of this year

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

-He's a good QB
-He has a stronger, more accurate arm. Better pocket presence
-You know what, at this point I'd even give Colt a call and see if he wants to QB for us the rest of this year

Also, what makes Kellen different from Chad Pennington, and Matt Leinart? Actually if Kellen is a chad pennington I'd consider that a win for him considering what scouts are grading him as and what they think he'll be capable of (a backup)

[kevinjames1973]

Here is a pretty good site with a lot of mock drafts.

NFL Forum :: - 2012 NFL Mock Draft

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by kevinjames1973

Here is a pretty good site with a lot of mock drafts.

NFL Forum :: - 2012 NFL Mock Draft

Here is another mock draft...

WalterFootball.com: 2012 NFL Mock Draft

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Here is another mock draft...

WalterFootball.com: 2012 NFL Mock Draft

I would be very happy with that result.

[musicmaster45]

The awesome thing about walter football they update every week based on team results.

[kevinjames1973]

Mock drafts are fun but I dont remember seeing even one mock last year that had us taking Kerrigan.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by kevinjames1973

Mock drafts are fun but I dont remember seeing even one mock last year that had us taking Kerrigan.

That's 'cause you weren't here last year