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Old 03-12-2012, 06:42 PM   #1
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Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space

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The Redskins are still in an advantageous cap position in spite of this decision by the NFL, which is something the Cowboys are not. What this decision does do is make contention in 2012 behind the strength of a 90th percentile FA class unrealistic. Time to re-assess and look to catch some declining NFC East teams in 2013.

Which was arguably the better plan to begin with.
I heard on the radio today that if we split the $36M hit 50-50 with this year and next, we'll still have more cap room than all the other teams in the division, however they all already have more talented rosters.

Good news is we currently only have $83M on the book next year.
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Old 03-12-2012, 06:47 PM   #2
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I heard on the radio today that if we split the $36M hit 50-50 with this year and next, we'll still have more cap room than all the other teams in the division, however they all already have more talented rosters.

Good news is we currently only have $83M on the book next year.
Right. We're not in bad cap position at all. We're just in the bottom five team in the league in talent that's returning from last year (not counting our UFAs like Landry.

If you take the AV (approximate value) ratings of everyones roster going back to 2009, and just add it up to create a "veteran talent power rankings" the NFL looks like this at the moment:
Green Bay - 582
Philadelphia - 530
Pittsburgh - 522
Atlanta - 509
Houston - 490
New England - 488
New Orleans - 477
NY Jets - 466
Dallas - 466
Baltimore - 449
San Francisco - 447
Chicago - 434
San Diego - 432
Detroit - 420
NY Giants - 414
Jacksonville - 413
Miami - 412
Carolina - 408
Arizona - 407
Tennessee - 381
Buffalo - 380
Minnesota - 371
Kansas City - 370
Oakland - 361
Denver - 343
Cincinnati - 326
Tampa Bay - 316
Washington - 315
Cleveland - 315
Seattle - 289
St. Louis - 287
Indianapolis - 199
That's current as of Sellers' release. So yeah, there's a gap in the NFC between the haves the four have nots.

I'll repost this list after everyone's cuts come in. It will change significantly.
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Old 03-12-2012, 08:33 PM   #3
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Green Bay - 582
Philadelphia - 530
Pittsburgh - 522
Atlanta - 509
Houston - 490
New England - 488
New Orleans - 477
NY Jets - 466
Dallas - 466
Baltimore - 449
San Francisco - 447
Chicago - 434
San Diego - 432
Detroit - 420
NY Giants - 414
Jacksonville - 413
Miami - 412
Carolina - 408
Arizona - 407
Tennessee - 381
Buffalo - 380
Minnesota - 371
Kansas City - 370
Oakland - 361
Denver - 343
Cincinnati - 326
Tampa Bay - 316
Washington - 315
Cleveland - 315
Seattle - 289
St. Louis - 287
Indianapolis - 199
That's current as of Sellers' release. So yeah, there's a gap in the NFC between the haves the four have nots.

I'll repost this list after everyone's cuts come in. It will change significantly.
Revise after todays signings and cuts:

Green Bay - 582
Philadelphia - 530
Pittsburgh - 522
Atlanta - 509
New England - 488
New Orleans - 477
NY Jets - 466
Dallas - 466
Houston - 464
Baltimore - 449
San Francisco - 447
Chicago - 434
San Diego - 432
Detroit - 420
NY Giants - 414
Jacksonville - 413
Miami - 412
Carolina - 408
Arizona - 407
Tennessee - 381
Buffalo - 380
Minnesota - 376
Kansas City - 372
Oakland - 343
Denver - 343
Cincinnati - 326
Tampa Bay - 316
Cleveland - 309
Washington - 304
Seattle - 289
St. Louis - 210
Indianapolis - 199
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Old 03-12-2012, 08:44 PM   #4
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Revise after todays signings and cuts:

Green Bay - 582
Philadelphia - 530
Pittsburgh - 522
Atlanta - 509
New England - 488
New Orleans - 477
NY Jets - 466
Dallas - 466
Houston - 464
Baltimore - 449
San Francisco - 447
Chicago - 434
San Diego - 432
Detroit - 420
NY Giants - 414
Jacksonville - 413
Miami - 412
Carolina - 408
Arizona - 407
Tennessee - 381
Buffalo - 380
Minnesota - 376
Kansas City - 372
Oakland - 343
Denver - 343
Cincinnati - 326
Tampa Bay - 316
Cleveland - 309
Washington - 304
Seattle - 289
St. Louis - 210
Indianapolis - 199
What are these numbers?
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Old 03-12-2012, 06:48 PM   #5
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I heard on the radio today that if we split the $36M hit 50-50 with this year and next, we'll still have more cap room than all the other teams in the division, however they all already have more talented rosters.

Good news is we currently only have $83M on the book next year.
So are we subtracting $18 million from $47 million to get $29 million in cap space before cuts and restructures?
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Another thing pissing me off is that not only are the Redskins and Cowboys punished, but other teams are REWARDED.
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Another thing pissing me off is that not only are the Redskins and Cowboys punished, but other teams are REWARDED.
It's truly mind blowing isn't it? I've never seen something like this.

When the New Jersey Devils were punished for front loading Ilya Kovalchuks contract, they were punished 1 first round pick. That first round pick could be from either the 2010,11,12,13 draft.

Redskins get 36 million dollars which essentially takes them out of free agency for two seasons, and the rest of the leagues pockets free money? Unreal.
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If d Hall is cut how much cap will we get back?
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Old 03-12-2012, 06:45 PM   #9
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ouch. we badly need to make good use of our remaing picks in the draft.
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Old 03-12-2012, 06:59 PM   #10
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ouch. we badly need to make good use of our remaing picks in the draft.
Whereas before we could have pissed them away willy nilly?

I would like to see the team push $26 mil into 2013 and sue the NFL, the other owners, the mgmt council and the NFLPA for collusion. This whole thing reeks of BS.
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Old 03-12-2012, 06:51 PM   #11
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Ok, so how is it the NFL fails to mention this from Sept. to March? and waits until the eve of Free Agency to announce that they are going to take away mill. of $$$?

Spirit or not if it's not in the rules that says they can't do it then the Skins did nothing wrong. If I'm DS I'm filing an appeal. Hope that the appeal would keep the NFL from doing anything until after we've picked up our players and have had a chance to have a lawyer prove they did nothing wrong.

How they going to all of a sudden come up with some BS about how it violated the spirit of the rules. Heck the Skins did that for years when they back loaded contracts and there was no penalty for that.
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Ok, so how is it the NFL fails to mention this from Sept. to March? and waits until the eve of Free Agency to announce that they are going to take away mill. of $$$?

Spirit or not if it's not in the rules that says they can't do it then the Skins did nothing wrong. If I'm DS I'm filing an appeal. Hope that the appeal would keep the NFL from doing anything until after we've picked up our players and have had a chance to have a lawyer prove they did nothing wrong.

How they going to all of a sudden come up with some BS about how it violated the spirit of the rules. Heck the Skins did that for years when they back loaded contracts and there was no penalty for that.
If there was EVER a time for Snyder to let the lawyers run wild this is it.
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Old 03-12-2012, 06:55 PM   #13
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Like somebody said, if Dan Snyder can go all out to sue some small city newspaper over a bogus cause, than he should be going balls deep into the NFL with litigation over this since those contracts were approved by the very council that is handing down this punishment.
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Like somebody said, if Dan Snyder can go all out to sue some small city newspaper over a bogus cause, than he should be going balls deep into the NFL with litigation over this since those contracts were approved by the very council that is handing down this punishment.
The lawsuits against the fans and the tiny paper were training......training to strip the lawyers of their last glimpse of humanity all leading up to this day where the NFL decided to stop playing fair and start playing dirty.
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Admittedly, I had to look up collusion. This is the 100% definition. JoeRedskin will be able to tell us for sure. It's the combination of reward to other teams, disregard for what the numbers MIGHT have been and the timing of this.

I just can't imagine this was a perfect storm. SUCH BULLSHIT.
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