RGIII Named Starter

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by The Goat

The no-huddle offense is a weapon in and of itself. It's also something we haven't done (well) during my adulthood. If Griffin can effectively run it half the time this year will be tons of fun.

Yep, I could see him racking up 12-men penalties and offsides on our opponents' defenses. RGIII even mentioned this on the Gruden QB camp interview, how he loves to get his team lined up and snap the ball when he sees the D trying to substitute.

He can handle it. He's smart enough to look at a defense and call a play in a hurry.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

...He can handle it. He's smart enough to look at a defense and call a play in a hurry.

I got no questions about whether Griffin can handle the no huddle.
I love talking about the no-huddle in abstract but I don't see how or why people think we would use it more often.
In the past this offense (Mike/Kyle) hasn't been a no huddle offense.
And if we're speaking honestly the performance in 2 minute and hurry has been lacking regardless of the QB (McNabb/Rex).
With McNabb the excuse was he didn't know the offense with Rex there was no excuse. (equipment malfunction?)
I'm sure Kyle will improve with his hurry-up/2 minute offense/playcalling as he gains experience but I think its a hellavu strecth to think we're suddenly going to become a no huddle offense from what we've seen and where we are thus far.
I think its far more likely that they'll work to increase the tempo i.e. get in and out of the huddle quickly, get to the line quickly with time on the playclock etc.

If I were gambling on a team likely to run the type of offense some fans think we'll run (up tempo, no-huddle, with some zone-read, WCO) I would look at the Dolphins.

[VegasSkinsFan]

Originally Posted by The Goat

The no-huddle offense is a weapon in and of itself. It's also something we haven't done (well) during my adulthood. If Griffin can effectively run it half the time this year will be tons of fun.

Seriously. I would love to be the team that puts pressure on the defense by having no huddle done well. Get some 12 men on the field and off sides calls.

[los panda]

power plays and open nets, indeed

[REDSKINS4ever]

The Buffao Bills ran that no huddle offense well during the early 1990s and they went to 4 straight Super Bowls. Whether Mike Shanahan wants to incorporate the no huddle offense as a wrinkle or as something basic and continuous, it should be effective. A no huddle west coast offense would place so much pressure on opposing defenses no doubt.

[Pigskins]

Yeah I mean I like mike shanahan. He's done things I liked an thing I hated that have not us in the ass. However I trust that he's doing his best to win and wants to win just like all of us. If the team did everything I wanted I'm
Sure we wouldn't win a SB lol so you just gotta take good with the bad and be patient. If god came to me an said the skins will never win another game, I'd still watch every Sunday bc I bleed the burgundy and gold and I think any Sunday we can beat anyone

[los panda]

Originally Posted by Pigskins

He's done things I liked an thing I hated that have not us in the ass

pardon?

[The Goat]

Franchises like the Lions and Bengals have been turned around completely in three years and (especially w/ Detroit) starting way further down in terms of talent than Mike inherited in Washington. He chose to make the transition even harder by blowing up the defense.

Point is good coaches have shown three years is sufficient to turn a franchise around. If Mike can't get to .500 this year it high time to move on. If he can't compete for a division title next year it will be time to move on. The notion we won't find a better coach is absurd. Mike has made myriad mistakes here already that are on him and him alone...starting this year the results fall on his shoulders and it's time to put the legacy argument to bed.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Franchises like the Lions and Bengals have been turned around completely in three years and (especially w/ Detroit) starting way further down in terms of talent than Mike inherited in Washington. He chose to make the transition even harder by blowing up the defense.

Point is good coaches have shown three years is sufficient to turn a franchise around. If Mike can't get to .500 this year it high time to move on. If he can't compete for a division title next year it will be time to move on. The notion we won't find a better coach is absurd. Mike has made myriad mistakes here already that are on him and him alone...starting this year the results fall on his shoulders and it's time to put the legacy argument to bed.

I've seen this comment more than a few times this offseason from a variety of sources and I just really don't get it. Other than appeasing an impatient fan base, what exactly would this accomplish?

The analysis came out last week that Shanahan has replaced all but 15 players from the roster he inherited (and that assumes that Moss & Cooley return in 2012). Also, we have drafted more players (21) than any other team in the league the past 2 years. AND, by the way, we just drafted our franchise QB for the next decade who just happens to fit, according to ALL NFL experts, perfectly in the offensive system he and his son run.

So according to you, if we improve to 7 wins he should be fired and we start over AGAIN? Help me understand what the logic is other than bloodlust? What results would you expect in 2013 from the team he specifically built to suit his vision from another coach/regime?

[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

I've seen this comment more than a few times this offseason from a variety of sources and I just really don't get it. Other than appeasing an impatient fan base, what exactly would this accomplish?

The analysis came out last week that Shanahan has replaced all but 15 players from the roster he inherited (and that assumes that Moss & Cooley return in 2012). Also, we have drafted more players (21) than any other team in the league the past 2 years. AND, by the way, we just drafted our franchise QB for the next decade who just happens to fit, according to ALL NFL experts, perfectly in the offensive system he and his son run.

So according to you, if we improve to 7 wins he should be fired and we start over AGAIN? Help me understand what the logic is other than bloodlust? What results would you expect in 2013 from the team he specifically built to suit his vision from another coach/regime?

Yes it's amazing how fans get mad at Snyder for changeing coaches every 2 to 3 years, yet this is what most people think we should continue todo.

[jgalecpa]

"Yes it's amazing how fans get mad at Snyder for changeing coaches every 2 to 3 years, yet this is what most people think we should continue todo."

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Albert Einstein

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

Yes it's amazing how fans get mad at Snyder for changeing coaches every 2 to 3 years, yet this is what most people think we should continue todo.

Momma always said...stupid is as stupid does.

[fanarchist]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Momma always said...stupid is as stupid does.

Just as asinine not to consider the possibility that this 2 season sub 500 coaching staff with cart blanche might not come away with a winning season. You guys are arguing that we shouldn't repeat past mistakes, but keeping a coaching staff regardless of record, gameplanning, playcalling, production, half time adjustments, adaptation, exploitation of opponants weaknesses, personnel decisions, just because you believe we should keep a regime in place for 5 years, sounds like one big perpetual mistake. The Shanaman, just like any other man, should be held accountable for his mistakes. He deserves this year though, to see if he can turn things around, but the man vouched for Grossman, the same with Beck, same with McNabb, and he said after all that failed that he just needed a QB that fits his system. He's got one, let's see what he can do with him.

[ashvirtually]

Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

Yes it's amazing how fans get mad at Snyder for changeing coaches every 2 to 3 years, yet this is what most people think we should continue todo.

It's insane.

[ethat001]

Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

Yes it's amazing how fans get mad at Snyder for changeing coaches every 2 to 3 years, yet this is what most people think we should continue todo.

This.