Redskins vs. Bengals Post Game Reaction

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I somewhat agree with this. Wonder if they should have gone after Carr in the off-season as compared to Garcon or Morgan? I realize our WRs were shitty, but so are our DBs.


In a way, I think they are in a no-win situation. If they go out in FA and address pricey DBs acquisitions , then the WR and OL suffers. If they address pricey OL acquisitions, then the WR and DBs suffer. If they address pricey WR acquisitions, the DBs and OL suffer.

You only have but so many resources (picks and cap room), but STILL with a ton of holes left on this team. Injuries are simply killing this team right now though. That and stupidity. (aka..smoking weed and failing drug tests)

Hall by himself is taking up six million in cap. Then when you consider how much it took to get RG3...I'm thinking resources aren't the problem. Landry is making less this year than Meriweather. This is strictly a talent evaluation issue.

What we've learned from Garçon being injured is that our receivers are in good shape even without Morgan and garçon. Moss played maybe the third or fourth most snaps of anyone today at we because Banks is more useful in an option package and Robinson/hanker son are just better players. They've drafted well at receiver because they placed a high value on the position. Garçon is a nice piece to have on your team but I disagree that this is a resource issue. The front office simply failed to see the issues at offensive tackle and db, evidenced by jammal brown and d hall making the roster despite high cap numbers.

[SmootSmack]

Willie Smith...he played terrible this summer and played his way off the team. Did Black beat him out? Tough to say, but just because he's starting in Oakland doesn't mean it was a mistake to release him from here

D. Hall...doesn't seem to be much grey area when it comes to fans' opinions of him. I think because of his talking his actual play probably doesn't often get the respect it deserves.

Carlos Rogers...He and the Redskins were very close to agreeing to a long term deal back in 2010. But then, realizing he had pissed away his earnings and was flat out broke he asked for the moon. Redskins said no. Then Rogers went shopping his talents around the league and everyone laughed at his request and said no (lockout, of course, didn't help). Finally he had to settle for a one year deal. Could we have gotten back in the mix on a one year deal? Possibly. But what do you do? Take a chance on a one year deal with Carlos and then see him walk or just lock in Wilson long term?

[Bushead]

Good: RG3 and the Offense. While there are some inconsistencies and RGIII is putting his body at risk, Kyle has this offense going well without their number one, which is what is amazing. When Garcon comes back, I think that will add another awesome dimension.

Bad: How can a defense, with very few pieces changing, be so much worse? Is it because people had such a lead on us that many teams would just run the ball?

[CrustyRedskin]

Geesh. Hall is the least of the defenses problem.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by CrustyRedskin

Geesh. Hall is the least of the defenses problem.

This.

There is something fundamentally wrong with the secondary. Hall, Wilson, Gomes and Crawford were getting beat out there today.

[SmootSmack]

Yeah it seems like the reason the defense may have looked better in previous years is that opposing offenses didn't have to look so good.

I've been quite disappointed with Jenkins so far.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Fair point. Unfortunately Rogers wanted to get paid like he held on to those INTs.

The problem started when the Redskins decided to take their principled stand against their best defensive players like Rogers and Fletcher (even though that deal got done) and then went out and spent $12 mil in cap this year on Meriweather, ced griffin, and hall. There are still bad contracts here, but fewer good players.

It's one thing to let Rogers walk in 2011 so the can get Brandon Carr in 2012. It's another thing to let him walk and then spend on Cedric griffin.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

The problem started when the Redskins decided to take their principled stand against their best defensive players like Rogers and Fletcher (even though that deal got done) and then went out and spent $12 mil in cap this year on Meriweather, ced griffin, and hall. There are still bad contracts here, but fewer good players.

It's one thing to let Rogers walk in 2011 so the can get Brandon Carr in 2012. It's another thing to let him walk and then spend on Cedric griffin.

How about letting Landry, the 6th overall pick walk away and get nothing for him and Rogers the 9th overall. Not even a 7th round pick for either.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

How about letting Landry, the 6th overall pick walk away and get nothing for him and Rogers the 9th overall. Not even a 7th round pick for either.

Landry did absolutely nothing in his time here beyond a half of a season to warrant any type of extension. His entire time here, he couldn't even manage ONE god damn lousy Pro-Bowl, and they'll invite anybody to one of those. NOT ONE. The past two years he's ignored the advice of one of the world's top orthopedic surgeons because he's scared of the knife. Do you really think his coverage ability would have done jack shit today? Nope. He's another that got paid top dollar as a high round draft pick and NEVER lived up to his draft status. He's also one failed drug test away from being suspended.


Rogers? While he was consistent and steady, he didn't want to put in the hard work or get his eyes checked to help him achieve that extension. All he did was bitch and complain about his salary, yet kept dropping INT after INT, which NO DOUBT cost us a few games all in itself. His last year, he was cleared to play by docs but still sat out because he didn't want to hurt himself in a contract year. Guess what? Rogers was so desired by the league that he was basically the LAST ****ing DB signed in FA and it took forever for a team to finally bite on him. Even then, he had to swallow his pride and take a 1 year deal. ONE YEAR DEAL. Does that tell you anything? It tells me a lot. THEN, he decides if he wants that big payday, he better go get those contacts and actually start catching the ball. Funny how he manage to catch INTs when his sorry ass in a one year deal, but couldn't do it when he was being paid top dollar. I imagine we'll see Carlos going back to being himself now that he got a contract extension in the off-season.


Look, those 2 clowns didn't want to do what it took to be a baller while they were here, and only when they are in 1 year deals do they realize they need to get their act together to in order to secure another pay day. **** those assholes and I'm glad they are no longer part of this team. It's guys like them that brought our culture down to what it was. (aka...getting paid to not do anything)

[SmootSmack]

And offensively I think it's wrong not to trust RG3 on 4th downs. That's cost us two weeks in a row

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

And offensively I think it's wrong not to trust RG3 on 4th downs. That's cost us two weeks in a row

Or Morris...the dude is always moving forward with the ball.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Or Morris...the dude is always moving forward with the ball.

Yeah, I mean whoever, But you're putting RG3 out there to get pounded all day long and he's making plays with his arms and feet repeatedly but then 4th and 1 and you don't give him the opportunity, you punt? Even last week go for it on 4th and 18. Why send Cundiff out there? We didn't wait two years and give up all those picks to have RG3 on the sidelines when it matters, not in my opinion.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

And offensively I think it's wrong not to trust RG3 on 4th downs. That's cost us two weeks in a row

Yup, no matter what, we haven't LOST yardage on any designed runs this year (that I can remember). If it's fourth and one, why not line up in shotgun, let him run, and if the defense gives it to him, throw a quick pass.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

But he wasn't catching the ball here. And again, it wasn't an either/or situation. They were prepared to keep both.

But it seems like the players are always the good guys. Like guys like Rogers and even Fletcher can never be greedy

Rogers wanted out right?? I mean what did they want the skins to do? Offer an avg CB. 80 million dollars?

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Rogers wanted out right?? I mean what did they want the skins to do? Offer an avg CB. 80 million dollars?

Never forget... Haynesworth.