Skins vs Packers post game thread

Paintrain · 09-16-2013, 04:09 PM

So I'll try to prop up the falling sky with 5 suggestions to get the team back on track..

1. De-emphasize the read option looks and pitch plays for now. Defenses are overcommitting to them big time and is killing any hope of a running game. Keep them in as ways to get the defense on their toes but let's get back to the stretch-zone scheme from under center and from the Pistol to set things up a little more.

2. Get Haslett out of the booth. It's clear that SOMETHING big is missing (outside of talent) with the defense this year. Maybe there is a disconnect between the sidelines and the players, maybe adjustments aren't being made on the fly, I don't know. But it's obvious that we've got some major issues early in games before he can address the unit at halftime.

3. Get a hold of the penalties! As much as Philly and GB have whupped us, we've done a great job of screwing ourselves as well. Terrible decisions by guys all over the field with personal fouls, unsportsmanlikes, etc. Gotta be smarter and play smarter. Time for RGIII and Fletcher to start lighting into their teammates.

4. Luck is cyclical. We can't get much unluckier with field position. It seems that every drive damn near starts inside our own 25 yard line. We've gotten none of the field flipping turnovers we saw last year, no plays on special teams to move the ball into better position. Part of it is repeated 3 and outs after a kickoff but our luck has to turn around.

5. Remember it's week 2 and everyone else in the division is weak as well. Dallas can't move the ball consistently. Philly is gonna burn out by Columbus Day. The Giants, well they look worse than us! We were probably gonna lose to Green Bay anyways and whoever played Philly in week one was gonna get Spurriered. We get back to business at home this week. Go out and get some stops, move the ball consistently and we can put the plug back in the panic dam.

donofriose · 09-16-2013, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

So I'll try to prop up the falling sky with 5 suggestions to get the team back on track..

1. De-emphasize the read option looks and pitch plays for now. Defenses are overcommitting to them big time and is killing any hope of a running game. Keep them in as ways to get the defense on their toes but let's get back to the stretch-zone scheme from under center and from the Pistol to set things up a little more.

2. Get Haslett out of the booth. It's clear that SOMETHING big is missing (outside of talent) with the defense this year. Maybe there is a disconnect between the sidelines and the players, maybe adjustments aren't being made on the fly, I don't know. But it's obvious that we've got some major issues early in games before he can address the unit at halftime.

3. Get a hold of the penalties! As much as Philly and GB have whupped us, we've done a great job of screwing ourselves as well. Terrible decisions by guys all over the field with personal fouls, unsportsmanlikes, etc. Gotta be smarter and play smarter. Time for RGIII and Fletcher to start lighting into their teammates.

4. Luck is cyclical. We can't get much unluckier with field position. It seems that every drive damn near starts inside our own 25 yard line. We've gotten none of the field flipping turnovers we saw last year, no plays on special teams to move the ball into better position. Part of it is repeated 3 and outs after a kickoff but our luck has to turn around.

5. Remember it's week 2 and everyone else in the division is weak as well. Dallas can't move the ball consistently. Philly is gonna burn out by Columbus Day. The Giants, well they look worse than us! We were probably gonna lose to Green Bay anyways and whoever played Philly in week one was gonna get Spurriered. We get back to business at home this week. Go out and get some stops, move the ball consistently and we can put the plug back in the panic dam.

So basically do everything better because nothing has worked.

Paintrain · 09-16-2013, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by donofriose

So basically do everything better because nothing has worked.

Not quite that simplified but in a way, yes. There's no need to start scrambling to fire coaches, bench Griffin, blah blah blah that sports talk minded people espouse. Do some of you doubt your (any pretty much most analysts) ability to understand football and think that two weeks ago we were a playoff caliber team and now we're not? We played pretty much as bad as a team could play in back to back weeks, but it's still week 2. Come find me in Week 6 if we're still giving up 350 yds and being outscored 24-0 each first half.

skinsfaninok · 09-16-2013, 04:55 PM

Shanahan says he won’t consider a quarterback change

NC_Skins · 09-16-2013, 05:12 PM

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Shanahan says he won’t consider a quarterback change

Why this is even a topic is beyond me. A QB change after 2 games? ROFL. Either the media doesn't have jack squat to write on or the people thinking this stuff up are idiots.

skinsfaninok · 09-16-2013, 05:35 PM

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Why this is even a topic is beyond me. A QB change after 2 games? ROFL. Either the media doesn't have jack squat to write on or the people thinking this stuff up are idiots.

yeah KC isn't playing def anytime soon

SolidSnake84 · 09-16-2013, 05:34 PM

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Shanahan says he won’t consider a quarterback change

I think he will be thinking differently if and when it puts his job on the line.

If the team is struggling and he has a chance to make a switch and perhaps "jump start" the offense, i think he will do it. I think it's clear that RG3 is not 100%

I don't want to see a quarterback change but i think if we come out of the bye at 0-4, it has to be going through his mind....

donofriose · 09-16-2013, 05:39 PM

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I think he will be thinking differently if and when it puts his job on the line.

If the team is struggling and he has a chance to make a switch and perhaps "jump start" the offense, i think he will do it. I think it's clear that RG3 is not 100%

I don't want to see a quarterback change but i think if we come out of the bye at 0-4, it has to be going through his mind....

Well if he does change the QB he better hope the OLine learns how to block, receivers learn how to get open and to make catches, and the defense learns how to tackle, cover, and get consistent pressure on opposing quarterbacks. Hopefully if cousins becomes the starter all those aspects of football magically become fixed.

MTK · 09-16-2013, 05:39 PM

KC isn't playing and it shouldn't even be a thought in anyone's mind right now.

KC missed a good chunk of practice time with his injury. Substitute one rusty QB for another? Not smart.

Griffin is the franchise, you don't bench him. It will only create a giant shit storm of controversy.

The Goat · 09-16-2013, 05:50 PM

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KC isn't playing and it shouldn't even be a thought in anyone's mind right now.

KC missed a good chunk of practice time with his injury. Substitute one rusty QB for another? Not smart.

Griffin is the franchise, you don't bench him. It will only create a giant shit storm of controversy.

This. Plus, if Cousins is put in and the Shanny's open the offense up with rollouts, bootlegs and screens you're not comparing apples to apples between RG and Cousins, but just starting a huge QB controversy.

But those issues are just part of the problem, and fixing them isn't going to make this team a contender IMO. There's much more at issue here.

skinsfan69 · 09-16-2013, 05:41 PM