The everything Gruden thread

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Originally Posted by Avinash_Tyagi

At what point will all you Gruden Boosters admit the obvious?



At what point will you be willing to agree that yes Gruden must go?

Get back to me in another 12 months....at the earliest.


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[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by Avinash_Tyagi

At what point will all you Gruden Boosters admit the obvious?

At what point will you be willing to agree that yes Gruden must go?

I've been told on this board, at least 8 years in. Anything before that is a rush to judgment.

[rocnrik]

Gruden must go? if that happens who is the next coach? who is the QB ? ..if they fire Gruden after 1 year I will become a cowboys fan..this talk in crazy.Why would you fire Gruden??..Here is the TRUTH..we DO NOT HAVE a real QB on the roster! McCoy is the best we have! RGIII IS A BUST ..believe it ! Injuries on the D has taken its toll..our secondary is not good..PLEASE SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT COACH COULD POST A WINNING SEASON WITH THIS CURRENT ROSTER??..please tell me! Now if you said we need a real GM I would buy into that.

[CASKINS]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

Gruden must go? if that happens who is the next coach? who is the QB ? ..if they fire Gruden after 1 year I will become a cowboys fan..this talk in crazy.Why would you fire Gruden??..Here is the TRUTH..we DO NOT HAVE a real QB on the roster! McCoy is the best we have! RGIII IS A BUST ..believe it ! Injuries on the D has taken its toll..our secondary is not good..PLEASE SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT COACH COULD POST A WINNING SEASON WITH THIS CURRENT ROSTER??..please tell me! Now if you said we need a real GM I would buy into that.

If you'd run to the cowboys I feel sorry for ya...at least stay in the Area...(Ravens)

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Originally Posted by CASKINS

If you'd run to the cowboys I feel sorry for ya...at least stay in the Area...(Ravens)

Eff all that talk. Those are two teams that should be way down the bottom of the list along with the Gints, Birds, and Seahawks. How about the Cardinals or Bengals or something?


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[JPPT1974]

This is his first season. So he will have another season to prove himself. Just hope that Dan S knows what he is doing.

[Brody81]

https://twitter.com/markbullocknfl/s...83162076409856

Something for you Griffin lovers..

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[mooby]

Originally Posted by Brody81

https://twitter.com/markbullocknfl/s...83162076409856

Something for you Griffin lovers..

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If you're looking for a Griffin lover, you're probably in the wrong town. That bandwagon cleared out faster than Bill Cosby's.

[Stacks42]

This is laughable. And to make it worse, the redskins box office keeps calling me to upgrade to Premium seats. Blaaaaah!

Ticket prices for Redskins-Rams game plummet to as low as $3 - The Washington Post

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Originally Posted by Stacks42

This is laughable. And to make it worse, the redskins box office keeps calling me to upgrade to Premium seats. Blaaaaah!



Ticket prices for Redskins-Rams game plummet to as low as $3 - The Washington Post

Me and my brother got season tickets in I think 2008? Had them for about three years. Since we live in NJ we could only make it down 2-3 times a year. The rest went on stub hub and it literally got to the point that we couldnt give them away.


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[KI Skins Fan]

Per cbssports.com, Fran Tarkenton on RGIII and Gruden's evaluation of RGIII:

"He came into the league with an arrogance," Tarkenton said. "He goes into Washington, which is the worst place for him to go. They have been so hungry for a quarterback and for winning. They worshipped him. Here's RG3; he's our savior, he's our guy. His father gets involved and is in the locker room -- I have never seen a father in a locker room on Sundays. The owner, Dan Snyder, adopts him and becomes his best friend. So RG3, at 21, 22, thought he was Jesus, right?"

"And he was making pontifical statements about how he approached the game. I was listening to him the offseason after his rookie year, which was not a bad year, and I'm saying, 'Holy s---, this guy is out of control with his ego.' That was the first sign you saw that he lacked leadership. He was so into himself," Tarkenton said. "You know a quarterback's job? Make his teammates better. It's not about you; it's about your teammates. You've got to make them better, and if you don't make them better, you have no chance. And he was all about RG3."

"I sympathize with Jay Gruden. Gruden came out and pointed out, which is right, that he has no mechanics. He is a terrible passer, has no accuracy, he doesn't understand the offense, he doesn't read defenses, and he has no discipline. When he is supposed to take a 3-yard drop, he takes a 1-yard drop; if he is supposed to take a 5-yard drop, it's a 3-yard drop. There's no discipline and understanding of the defense because he is a pontificator. He will never make it. He will be out of football. He will be in the same graveyard as JaMarcus Russell and Vince Young."

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Per cbssports.com, Fran Tarkenton on RGIII and Gruden's evaluation "

"I sympathize with Jay Gruden. Gruden came out and pointed out, which is right, that he has no mechanics. He is a terrible passer, has no accuracy, he doesn't understand the offense, he doesn't read defenses, and he has no discipline. When he is supposed to take a 3-yard drop, he takes a 1-yard drop; if he is supposed to take a 5-yard drop, it's a 3-yard drop. There's no discipline and understanding of the defense because he is a pontificator. He will never make it. He will be out of football. He will be in the same graveyard as JaMarcus Russell and Vince Young."

Man, this last paragraph is......what Griffen needs to hear.
There is still a chance he can turn his career around if he just swallowed his pride and took the time to learn his craft as an NFL QB. I think because of the success he had his rookie year, he does not have the patience or humility to do it. It is what is holding him back.

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Originally Posted by Defensewins

Man, this last paragraph is......what Griffen needs to hear.

There is still a chance he can turn his career around if he just swallowed his pride and took the time to learn his craft as an NFL QB. I think because of the success he had his rookie year, he does not have the patience or humility to do it. It is what is holding him back.

Is it possible that Griffin cannot learn it? People can spend all of eternity wanting to learn a craft, and never be able to master it.
He is not the only physically gifted QB that cannot cut it in the NFL. There are literally thousands of others. His phyisical ability has helped him achieve alot but maybe he just does not have it inside him to be a great nfl qb.
There are varying opinions as to the time he puts in, and who knows what is true. I just dont buy the fact that if he showed up to work today and said, "Jay I want to dedicate every waking moment to becoming a great pocket passer in the NFL" that abra cadabra - he will be one eventually. You either have it inside of you, or you do not. Drive, determination, and athletic ability does not mean that you can automatically become a great NFL QB.


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Brody 81 posted the link to this a few posts ago. ^.


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[mredskins]

That Frank T article is so awesome. Fuck this franchise and Griffin. Match made in hell.