Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?

[SunnySide]

The Philadelphia Phillies shut down its Clearwater, Florida, site after five players and three members of the Major League Baseball team’s staff tested positive.

“All facilities in Clearwater have been closed indefinitely to all players, coaches and staff and will remain closed until medical authorities are confident that the virus is under control and our facilities are disinfected,” Phillies managing partner John Middleton said.

The Toronto Blue Jays shut down their Dunedin, Florida, training center after “a player presented symptoms consistent with those of the virus.”

“The Blue Jays are following protocols put in place for this scenario, including guidelines from MLB and the club’s medical team,” a club spokesperson said.

The National Hockey League’s Tampa Bay Lightning closed its arena after three players and some staff members were confirmed to be infected.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN23Q39S

The NFL isn't backing down from its hope of a season in 2020 amid the COVID-19 pandemic, despite facing a new set of problems and dwindling time to get everything figured out. Things appeared to be swiftly getting back on track in time to end the virtual offseason on June 26 and potentially aim at opening training camps in mid- to late-July, if not slightly sooner, but things are taking a dark turn as of late. Groups of players from several teams tested positive for the coronavirus in June -- headlined by Dallas Cowboys running back Ezekiel Elliott -- leading to the NFLPA asking players to halt all private workouts with teammates from here on out.

Each of these situations is a black eye to the chances of an NFL season in the fall, but the league is reportedly still optimistic there will be games played in 2020, per Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk.

The NFL and NFLPA recently released a joint set of stringent COVID-19 protocol each team must adhere to before players are allowed to return to facilities, a list that includes rearranging the locker room and redesigning on-the-field group workouts, but head coaches John Harbaugh and Sean McVay have already professed some of it as "humanly impossible," given how football is a contact sport. None of it seems to deter the league's front office though, with their bigger concern seemingly being if fans will be allowed to attend games. When it comes to that, the league reportedly isn't so hopeful, despite states like Texas having entered Phase 3 of reopening -- granting teams permission to house up to 50 percent stadium capacity.

That was in early June though, before the rash of positive COVID-19 tests that included both the Cowboys and the Houston Texans, and the reopening of Florida has been met with positive tests from at least one coach and several players of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

That said, it remains unlikely teams like the Cowboys would be willing to take on the liability of opening the doors to fans.

Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and the leading voice on how the country should manage the coronavirus pandemic, agrees that all hope is not yet lost for a possible NFL season in 2020 -- albeit with a stern warning. Fauci feels the only way it will/can take place is if the league follows the example of the soon-to-reopen NBA, as the latter readies to resume its season using Walt Disney World in Orlando, Florida as a bubble.

"Unless players are essentially in a bubble -- insulated from the community and they are tested nearly every day -- it would be very hard to see how football is able to be played this fall," Fauci said, via CNN. "If there is a second wave, which is certainly a possibility and which would be complicated by the predictable flu season, football may not happen this year."

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/n...tive-covid-19/

I personally hope they play. Let each player decide if they want to or not. But what about the older assistants and staff?

Im not worried about an asymptomatic Zeke but I am about the 67 year old assistant trainer.

[Pervis_Griffith]

I know how awful this virus can be, having lost two family members to it. It really sucks.

But ... At the end of the day, aren't we talking about a virus where over 40% of the US deaths occurred in nursing home/long term care facilities which make up 0.6% of our population?

And where people under the age 30 are more at risk from dying from the regular flu than from COVID?

I mean Tom Hanks is 62 or 63, has Type II Diabetes, and he recovered nicely.


I just am a little baffled that so many people are so deathly afraid of this virus that they'd choose isolation to avoid getting it.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Pervis_Griffith

I know how awful this virus can be, having lost two family members to it. It really sucks.

But ... At the end of the day, aren't we talking about a virus where over 40% of the US deaths occurred in nursing home/long term care facilities which make up 0.6% of our population?

And where people under the age 30 are more at risk from dying from the regular flu than from COVID?

I mean Tom Hanks is 62 or 63, has Type II Diabetes, and he recovered nicely.


I just am a little baffled that so many people are so deathly afraid of this virus that they'd choose isolation to avoid getting it.

I think people are deathly afraid of death that can come with this virus.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Pervis_Griffith

I know how awful this virus can be, having lost two family members to it. It really sucks.

But ... At the end of the day, aren't we talking about a virus where over 40% of the US deaths occurred in nursing home/long term care facilities which make up 0.6% of our population?

And where people under the age 30 are more at risk from dying from the regular flu than from COVID?

I mean Tom Hanks is 62 or 63, has Type II Diabetes, and he recovered nicely.


I just am a little baffled that so many people are so deathly afraid of this virus that they'd choose isolation to avoid getting it.

Right now I don't see the big deal about continuing to isolate as much as possible, not just for myself but for family members that are in the more susceptible category.

If other people want to rush back out to the movies, bars, restaurants, etc. I say go right ahead. Test out those waters for me, I'd rather be late to this party than early.

[irish]

Originally Posted by MTK

Right now I don't see the big deal about continuing to isolate as much as possible, not just for myself but for family members that are in the more susceptible category.

If other people want to rush back out to the movies, bars, restaurants, etc. I say go right ahead. Test out those waters for me, I'd rather be late to this party than early.

The problem with others testing out the waters is it keeps the virus active and spreading. They are why this this will continue to be a problem and our lives will have to stay on hold.

[Number44]

Originally Posted by Pervis_Griffith

I know how awful this virus can be, having lost two family members to it. It really sucks.

But ... At the end of the day, aren't we talking about a virus where over 40% of the US deaths occurred in nursing home/long term care facilities which make up 0.6% of our population?

And where people under the age 30 are more at risk from dying from the regular flu than from COVID?

I mean Tom Hanks is 62 or 63, has Type II Diabetes, and he recovered nicely.


I just am a little baffled that so many people are so deathly afraid of this virus that they'd choose isolation to avoid getting it.

Very sorry for your loss.

An important thing to remember, though, is that while healthy younger people may be relatively safe from the more dire effects of the virus, they could well inadvertently cause loved ones that are more susceptible to contract the virus if they resume normal life and take no precautions.

[Pervis_Griffith]

I guess I have already accepted the fact that COVID 19 will be with us for the rest of my life, and I'm 50 ... hoping for another 50. With that in mind, putting life on hold for a virus that isn't that deadly to the overwhelming majority of the population makes little sense to me.

If you're at high risk, stay home. Take precautions.

If you're worried about it, stay home ... wear a mask when out. Wash your hands.

If you aren't worried about it as much, or aren't at risk, wear a mask, wash your hands, but enjoy life.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by Pervis_Griffith

I guess I have already accepted the fact that COVID 19 will be with us for the rest of my life, and I'm 50 ... hoping for another 50. With that in mind, putting life on hold for a virus that isn't that deadly to the overwhelming majority of the population makes little sense to me.

If you're at high risk, stay home. Take precautions.

If you're worried about it, stay home ... wear a mask when out. Wash your hands.

If you aren't worried about it as much, or aren't at risk, wear a mask, wash your hands, but enjoy life.

This is a very good point. And you put it out there with a common-sense perspective. This virus is never going to go away, vaccine or no vaccine. We will all live with it the rest of our lives. We most likely will have to wear masks the rest of our lives, that is what i am hearing, but, that being said, people can't put their lives on hold forever.

THAT being said, i also do not see a way that the NFL can have a season in 2020. If we are being dead honest, i would also think that next year's season could be in jeopardy. Here's why: The vaccine won't be out until December at the earliest for the first wave of at-risk people / first responders, etc.. The rest of us and the average joes will be able to start getting the vaccine by spring of next year.

I think we will be well on our way to recovery by summer of 2021, but i still think we will be dealing with thousands and thousands of new cases even after the vaccine comes out, this thing is going to take time to get down to low levels, to the point where states can lift their restrictions on public gatherings / sporting events, etc.. So that might not happen until next year sometime. I realize that we have came a long way, but there is still a hell of a long way to go, before everything goes back to "normal". And i don't see that happening within one year, but 2 - 3 years is a more reasonable time frame.

[MTK]

Really doubt we'll have to wear masks "forever". Eventually there will be a vaccine and/or meds to treat it with.

It may be more common as it already has been with Asian countries for people to wear masks when they're sick, but given the fact there are plenty of people who already can't handle the minor inconvenience of wearing one I can't see it being a regular thing once things are back to normal.

[sdskinsfan2001]

I am most certainly not wearing a mask the rest of my life. Spring 2021, I hope the rules get more lax. I plan on moving out of California 1st quarter of next year. State and local rules on COVID likely will play at least somewhat of a role in my decision of where to move to.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

I am most certainly not wearing a mask the rest of my life. Spring 2021, I hope the rules get more lax. I plan on moving out of California 1st quarter of next year. State and local rules on COVID likely will play at least somewhat of a role in my decision of where to move to.

My wife and I are thinking of moving out of Virginia, King Ralph's rules on COVID is making that decision for us. To be fair though, we were already talking about it at the end of last year. But if we stay here, it is at least possible that we see this stuff the rest of next year. Ralph's term ends in January of 2022, so i'm seeing at least another year and a half of restrictions...

[irish]

Originally Posted by MTK

Really doubt we'll have to wear masks "forever". Eventually there will be a vaccine and/or meds to treat it with.

It may be more common as it already has been with Asian countries for people to wear masks when they're sick, but given the fact there are plenty of people who already can't handle the minor inconvenience of wearing one I can't see it being a regular thing once things are back to normal.

People don't seem to understand that wearing a mask is to protect others not yourself. Unfortunately in today's "hooray for me to hell with you" society people aren't going to inconvenience themselves to protect someone else.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by irish

People don't seem to understand that wearing a mask is to protect others not yourself. Unfortunately in today's "hooray for me to hell with you" society people aren't going to inconvenience themselves to protect someone else.

We're such a dumb country that's really what this boils down to. It's just insane that someone can't handle the minor inconvenience of wearing a mask during a pandemic.

[irish]

Originally Posted by MTK

We're such a dumb country that's really what this boils down to. It's just insane that someone can't handle the minor inconvenience of wearing a mask during a pandemic.

You are correct, we are a dumb country. Unfortunately the rest of the world is seeing just how dumb we are and that doesn't bode well for our future.

As for the players, with the virus surging in most of the country, what happens when certain players decided the risk isn't worth the reward and opt to sit out the 2020 season whether it happens or not? I think there is a very real possibility that players decide to opt out.

[skinsfaninok]

There will be restrictions until a vaccine is made, Covid is just another Flu.. 1% death rate nationwide.. Time to get back to normal