Warpath Mock Draft - Start Time 3/15, 8am

[D'BOYZ]

Originally Posted by Buster

Just 3 years ago, we drafted a safety at #6 overall and we had other more pressing needs. 3 years before that, we drafted a safety at #5 overall who became a Pro Bowler.

yeah buster but in both cases you didn't trade 2 first round picks to get those Safetys.... he's not saying Berry isn't worth taking at #4 he's saying he isn't worth trading 2 high 1st round picks 2 get him like I've said... an also agree with him that it just took realism of what you guys were trying to do with this mock draft and acting on the best interest of every franchsie.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by D'BOYZ

yeah buster but in both cases yo udidn't trade 2 first round picks to get those Safetys.... he's not saying Berry isn't worth taking at #4 he's sayign he isn't worth trading 2 high 2st roudn picks 2 get him like I've said... an also agree with him that it just took realism of what you guys were trying to do with this mock draft and acting on the best interest of every franchsie.

Cowboys crying, such a familiar sight.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Buster

1. Just 3 years ago, we drafted a safety at #6 overall and we had other more pressing needs. 2.3 years before that, we drafted a safety at #5 overall who became a Pro Bowler.

1. how's that worked out for us?
2. did we trade multiple first round picks when we had multiple more pressing needs to move up to select a lesser need (safety) in either case? No. We simply took the best player on the board when they fell to us.

[CRedskinsRule]

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With Packers on the clock, Brett Favre officially announces he is retiring from draft watching.

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[diehardskin2982]

^ you are really making this more complicated than it needs to be... let it go this mock draft is for fun bro. None of us actually are in the teams real war room.
secondly it's about equal when you consider the math on the deal if Orakpo and Freeman had a 6th year on their deal the figures would be close.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

^ you are really making this more complicated than it needs to be... let it go this mock draft is for fun bro. None of us actually are in the teams real war room.

i guess youre right. maybe i should screw the vikings over to help the skins too. all in good fun, for course

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

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Rookie salary cap instituted on all 4th overall picks, starts 2010,will now be 1M less cost of 13th + 17th. Rule known as the Snyder Rule

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Did Bruce Allen become commishioner AND redskins GM? Brilliant!

[CRedskinsRule]

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Rookie salary cap instituted on all 4th overall picks, starts 2010,will now be 1M less cost of 13th + 17th. Rule known as the Snyder Rule

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[diehardskin2982]

we also don't know what a safety's contract would be at that pick. He won't be making Linebacker money that is for shore.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

we also don't know what a safety's contract would be at that pick. He won't be making Linebacker money that is for shore.

so you recognize that safeties generally get paid less than pretty much every other position.... because its a far less valuable position to a team. that said, regardless of a players position, a player drafted in the first round generallys makes close to than the player drafted at the same position the year before.

i don't mean to be overly hard on you - its just the only trade we've had so far and it involves the redskins and doesnt make much sense from the perspective of the 49ers. kinda broke the realism of what we were going for, atleast for me. Now, if Al Davis were owner of the 49ers, it would be another matter entirely. i'd be applauding your skills at impersonating the madman.

On that note, GTripp made far too sensible of a pick to accurately portray what the Raiders would do. If I had been Oakland, I would have drafted Tebow with that pick, LOL.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

so you recognize that safeties generally get paid less than pretty much every other position.... because its a far less valuable position to a team. that said, regardless of a players position, a player drafted in the first round generallys makes close to than the player drafted at the same position the year before.

i don't mean to be overly hard on you - its just the only trade we've had so far and it involves the redskins and doesnt make much sense from the perspective of the 49ers. kinda broke the realism of what we were going for, atleast for me. Now, if Al Davis were owner of the 49ers, it would be another matter entirely. i'd be applauding your skills at impersonating the madman.

On that note, GTripp made far too sensible of a pick to accurately portray what the Raiders would do. If I had been Oakland, I would have drafted Tebow with that pick, LOL.

No, don't worry. I specifically took a player who needs strong organizational structure to reach his max potential, and placed him in an organization that is a complete circus. No realism dropoff.

Anyway, I'm on your side in terms of the San Francisco-Washington trade being preposterously unrealistic. A quick Google search would show that SF local media sources have watch an offensive line perform every bit as poorly as ours has, and so the only reason to go up that high would be to land Okung, who was there, but passed on. Furthermore, Eric Berry isn't really a top five pick with the lone exception of if the Redskins surprise and take him. He could go 6-10, but I wouldn't be shocked if he's around when SF makes their first pick at 13 (and then he'll probably get further than that). Either way, the 49ers aren't going to trade up.

Still, we allowed trades in this dealy, and it's supposed to be for fun. Having two picks for the Redskins is more fun than one pick, and the mock is still valuable if you use it as a tool to see how the market is valuing certain positions against others (all OTs in the top 50 on anyones big board are gone pick pick 20, both QBs go in top 10), but not so much to worry about specific players.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

On that note, GTripp made far too sensible of a pick to accurately portray what the Raiders would do. If I had been Oakland, I would have drafted Tebow with that pick, LOL.

Al Davis would not allow the team to draft a QB, he's in love with his overweight, underachieving QB.

[D'BOYZ]

I like how many people is trying to make excuses and justify a trade that the only real reason is it helped the redskins in a redskins forum

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by D'BOYZ

I like how many people is trying to make excuses and justify a trade that the only real reason is it helped the redskins in a redskins forum

Would it have made a difference if diehard had traded up to get Okung and then he winds up with a top flight corner at # 37, filling SF's two biggest needs with quality starters?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by D'BOYZ

I like how many people is trying to make excuses and justify a trade that the only real reason is it helped the redskins in a redskins forum

I see it the other way, no surprise, that people who are ready to bash the Skins, fail to acknowledge that that trade could happen given the teams involved, and that surprise trades happen in alot of drafts. Did anyone expect Cleveland to be able to trade back MULTIPLE TIMES last year? If you look at the trade as it occured it really took the Skins out of the hunt for a qb, which many would say was not in the Skins interest, and yet it gave them two tackles, which was in the Skins interest. Trades happen when both sides think they gain, and in this case a S like Berry could very well attract a trade in the 1st round.

[CRedskinsRule]

can we call a truce perhaps?