Guard watches coast for oil slick's first wave

[joethiesmanfan]

YouTube - Oil Spill in Alaska 2010 & 1979 Rachel Maddow

Comparing thespill stopping technicques of 1979 to 2010 same attemtps same technology. Top hat was called Sombrero in 79. Check it out. Rachel Maddow and Cavuto are my two favorite talking heads.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

YouTube - Oil Spill in Alaska 2010 & 1979 Rachel Maddow

Comparing thespill stopping technicques of 1979 to 2010 same attemtps same technology. Top hat was called Sombrero in 79. Check it out. Rachel Maddow and Cavuto are my two favorite talking heads.

I did alot of research on this as well, and what was shocking is that the technology is still essentially the same, save for different terminology. The Top Hat or Dome, humorously being called Sombrero in 1979...

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

YouTube - Oil Spill in Alaska 2010 & 1979 Rachel Maddow

Comparing thespill stopping technicques of 1979 to 2010 same attemtps same technology. Top hat was called Sombrero in 79. Check it out. Rachel Maddow and Cavuto are my two favorite talking heads.

That was a very good piece from her that was on last night. Other then that she is a twitt. She never has anyone on her show with a different point of view only people who agree with her. That makes really great TV viewing.

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

That was a very good piece from her that was on last night. Other then that she is a twitt. She never has anyone on her show with a different point of view only people who agree with her. That makes really great TV viewing.

She has geek week going on. Does Bill O'Reilly have geek week on?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

She has geek week going on. Does Bill O'Reilly have geek week on?

Whats Geek Week?

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

That was a very good piece from her that was on last night. Other then that she is a twitt. She never has anyone on her show with a different point of view only people who agree with her. That makes really great TV viewing.

She's had Rand Paul on twice. First time he announced his candidacy on her show, second time, well, we know what happened the second time. She's invited Liz Cheney, Karl Rove, Sarah Palin, and numerous other Republicans repeatedly. All have declined.

I've seen her interview one of the top RNC communications guys at least twice. Can't pull his name off the top of my head. Tim Phillips, President of Americans For Prosperity, a group that works with Freedom Works (headed by Dick Armey) funding the Tea Party movement, has been on at least twice. Both times I saw the interview. They definitely didn't agree. So I think she's willing to have on whomever is willing to except the invite. I really don' think it's a matter of getting a bunch of liberals that agree with her point of view.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

She's had Rand Paul on twice. First time he announced his candidacy on her show, second time, well, we know what happened the second time. She's invited Liz Cheney, Karl Rove, Sarah Palin, and numerous other Republicans repeatedly. All have declined.

I've seen her interview one of the top RNC communications guys at least twice. Can't pull his name off the top of my head. Tim Phillips, President of Americans For Prosperity, a group that works with Freedom Works (headed by Dick Armey) funding the Tea Party movement, has been on at least twice. Both times I saw the interview. They definitely didn't agree. So I think she's willing to have on whomever is willing to except the invite. I really don' think it's a matter of getting a bunch of liberals that agree with her point of view.

Well I cannot comment because everytime I have seen someone on her show it was a person who agreed with her point of view. I do flip over to her show several times a week to see what she is talking about so its not like I only cut her on once or twice a month.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Well I cannot comment because everytime I have seen someone on her show it was a person who agreed with her point of view. I do flip over to her show several times a week to see what she is talking about so its not like I only cut her on once or twice a month.

YOU'VE BEEN OUTED.....MSNBC watcher!!!!

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Well I cannot comment because everytime I have seen someone on her show it was a person who agreed with her point of view. I do flip over to her show several times a week to see what she is talking about so its not like I only cut her on once or twice a month.

I pretty much catch Rach every evening, not so much lately, but I would consider myself an avid viewer of her show. I really don't care too much for Keith Olberman, Dylan or Ed Shultz. I'll flip over to Sean Insannity to see if he has Dick Morris (my fav) predicting more doom and gloom or pushing his latest book detesting the Obama administration.

For a while there I was watching Sean Hannity so much my girlfriend would just shut the TV off and we'd get into a little argument. Crazy.

[SolidSnake84]

Maybe off topic a bit but I had a geek moment this morning when I saw good old Bill Nye the Science Guy explaining to people on TV about the oil spill and what is currently happening.

Good move on the gov'ts part there. He always could explain complex science in a way that people could understand it. I didn't know he was still on tv. We watched him in school way back in the day....

[SmootSmack]

The problem really lies with BP. The gap between them and other oil companies when it comes to safety violations is astounding. I think it's like a 700 violations gap between BP at #1 and Sunoco (with fewer than 10 in the past three years, which is 10 too many of course)

Here's a good read

Renegade Refiner: OSHA Says BP Has “Systemic Safety Problem” - The Center for Public Integrity

But yeah, I definitely agree that had this been during the last administration there would be a lot of stories about the WH's ties to Big Oil. That's neither here nor there at this point though. They could blame me for all I care, just fix the problem

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The problem really lies with BP. The gap between them and other oil companies when it comes to safety violations is astounding. I think it's like a 700 violations gap between BP at #1 and Sunoco (with fewer than 10 in the past three years, which is 10 too many of course)

Here's a good read

Renegade Refiner: OSHA Says BP Has “Systemic Safety Problem” - The Center for Public Integrity

But yeah, I definitely agree that had this been during the last administration there would be a lot of stories about the WH's ties to Big Oil. That's neither here nor there at this point though. They could blame me for all I care, just fix the problem

Your numbers are right. In the last 3 years, BP had 760 Violations, and not just the technical kind. The guy on TV last night said that all of those violations involved a physical danger, or something being done wrong that could bring about injury, death, or environmental damage. By comparison, Exxon, who had the worst spill prior to BP, had only ONE violation in the same time frame...

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The problem really lies with BP. The gap between them and other oil companies when it comes to safety violations is astounding. I think it's like a 700 violations gap between BP at #1 and Sunoco (with fewer than 10 in the past three years, which is 10 too many of course)

Here's a good read

Renegade Refiner: OSHA Says BP Has “Systemic Safety Problem” - The Center for Public Integrity

But yeah, I definitely agree that had this been during the last administration there would be a lot of stories about the WH's ties to Big Oil. That's neither here nor there at this point though. They could blame me for all I care, just fix the problem

Good article, problem with the OSHA enforcement is all they can do is levy fines. What's $ 90M to BP, it would cost them more to fix the violations. I'm not arguing it's right, I'm just stating what is.

MMS enforcement could've shut them down but their enforcement efforts are suspect at best, grossly and intentionally negligent at worst.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Good article, problem with the OSHA enforcement is all they can do is levy fines. What's $ 90M to BP, it would cost them more to fix the violations. I'm not arguing it's right, I'm just stating what is.

MMS enforcement could've shut them down but their enforcement efforts are suspect at best, grossly and intentionally negligent at worst.

One of the few things the left and right seem to agree on is that the MMS needs sweeping administrative change. They're a shitshow.

[MTK]

Haven't we heard reports about BP's contributions to Obama?

PolitiFact | BP liked Obama, but oil stained Palin's hands too