Haynesworth fails conditioning test

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I think MS has more than proven his point.

It has been one day! Fat Al held the team and MS hostage for months.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I don't think this has anything to do with feeling sorry for AH. It's all about how this is turning into a big media circus. In the end, it's AH's fault for now showing up when he was supposed to, we get it, the whole world gets it. But when it gets to the point where even some of the players are starting to question what is going, you know something is not right.

I have to believe that there is a way for MS to beat up on AH during practice. Shit, make him run laps after practice, keep him with the 3rd stringers, etc., etc. Anything but this media circus that is probably giving Mike Florio and Cowboys fans a huge boner.

Again, it is reported on Redskins Insider by Tenorio that Al himself wanted to take the freaking test from the beginning after the bathroom break. Ray Wright did give him the option to call it a day and take it the next day.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I think MS has more than proven his point.

I agree with this now after this morning. I like what Shanny did, but now enough is enough. I think Shanny gained the respect of the team and this is another step reminding everyone this bullsh*t of the past is over, you were 4-12 last season: change is here.

So point is proven, everyone is going to be treated equally and the expectations are set...Now its time to bring everyone together and get to work.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Just because Albert won't win with MS, he can win back some teammates with all of this. I think MS is walking a fine line here. It's blatantly obvious he's making an example of him, which at this stage seems stupid. He showed up, he's 30 lbs lighter, and he's ready to work. Put him on the field and move on.

Apparently these conditioning tests are pretty brutal, and one defensive player said that few players would be able to pass the test that Albert has been taking, and another D-lineman said they had to take that same test in the offseason, but they weren't timed. Others in the organization have acknowledged that he's clearly in shape and has dropped 35 lbs.

Redskins Insider - Redskins will give Haynesworth a third chance to pass physical

It's clearly a power struggle/pissing contest. We get it Mike. You're the boss. There's no need for this at this point. I'm no fan of Albert, but let's cut the distractions and get our best defensive player on the field.

If this is the case then I could see the players union getting involved here. I don't have a problem with MS making an example of AH. But let's not take it too far. The reality is he only missed 2 mandatory practices. There are other ways to make him earn his keep.....putting him w/ the 2nd team, which they're already doing. Not starting him in the pre season games and so on.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

You guys can't feel sorry for AL. Yea it's starting to get ugly with the media but this is why Mike Shanahan has won 2 super bowls and has a great coaching record. The guy doesn't put up with BS. Albert brought this on him self when he asked for a trade and didn't show up for OTAs

not to take anything away from MS cause he is a really good head coach, but i think john elway had a little something to do with that. let's not forget that this is the same guy that changed defensive coordinators every year and he drafted maurice clarett.

[Trample the Elderly]

I say, what Shanny says goes. Eff Al, crybaby bitch! Let him run till he blows, like he did last year on his back.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

If this is the case then I could see the players union getting involved here. I don't have a problem with MS making an example of AH. But let's not take it too far. The reality is he only missed 2 mandatory practices. There are other ways to make him earn his keep.....putting him w/ the 2nd team, which they're already doing. Not starting him in the pre season games and so on.

Redskins Insider - More on Albert Haynesworth's failed conditioning tests

According to Wright, Haynesworth failed Thursday's test because he did not complete the runs in the allotted time after being forced to restart due to a long bathroom break.

"What happened the other day was he ran the first rep and then he had to use the restroom," Wright said. "You get three and a half minutes; he was gone close to 10. So I gave Albert the option, 'Do you want to run this again?' My suggestion was, let's just wait until the morning. He wanted to run it again, so we ran it again. So you get three reps as opposed to the two that it normally takes."

Asked if he felt Haynesworth would have passed without the bathroom break, Wright said, "He might have." Wright also said Haynesworth would not have been required to start the test over if he had returned within three and a half minutes.

"No, he could've gone and ate a hamburger if he came back in three and a half minutes, he was ready to run," Wright said.

Haynesworth is the only player on the team that had to take the test, according to both Wright and Coach Mike Shanahan. Wright said it was not a Haynesworth-specific test, but that he was the only player who did not meet a 50-percent attendance mark during the offseason.

"The guys that were under 50-percent [attendance] were notified, 'You got to get over 50 percent or there's going to be a test,'" Wright said. "Andre Carter was close, Rocky McIntosh was close, so we let them know. They're over 50 percent [attendance]. Our team was so high, we're 90.4 as a team, so no one was in danger of having to do a test."

So, from the bolded text, one can definitely conclude that Shanahan did NOT "force" Albert to take the test again, that Albert did three times due to him choosing the option of taking it again, and that this test could have been stuffed on ANYONE with less than 50% attendance rate in the offseason workouts and that they did notify the players. It's just that Albert was the only one who attended less than 50% of the offseason workouts.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I don't think this has anything to do with feeling sorry for AH. It's all about how this is turning into a big media circus. In the end, it's AH's fault for now showing up when he was supposed to, we get it, the whole world gets it. But when it gets to the point where even some of the players are starting to question what is going, you know something is not right.

I have to believe that there is a way for MS to beat up on AH during practice. Shit, make him run laps after practice, keep him with the 3rd stringers, etc., etc. Anything but this media circus that is probably giving Mike Florio and Cowboys fans a huge boner.

The media can talk it up all they want but it's really not that big of a distration with on the field stuff.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Redskins Insider - More on Albert Haynesworth's failed conditioning tests


So, from the bolded text, one can definitely conclude that Shanahan did NOT "force" Albert to take the test again, that Albert did three times due to him choosing the option of taking it again, and that this test could have been stuffed on ANYONE with less than 50% attendance rate in the offseason workouts and that they did notify the players. It's just that Albert was the only one who attended less than 50% of the offseason workouts.

thanks for posting.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by mredskins

It has been one day! Fat Al held the team and MS hostage for months.

Held hostage for months? Lol. He missed like 2 mandatory practices. For the record I think he should have been here for everything in the offseason, but this needs to stop now. MS is perpetuating this already stupid circus.

[Monksdown]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Held hostage for months? Lol. He missed like 2 mandatory practices. For the record I think he should have been here for everything in the offseason, but this needs to stop now. MS is perpetuating this already stupid circus.

This is turning into a polarizing topic. If Haynesworth is the clown, then i say keep the circus tents up. He is a lazy asshole. And this doesn't distract the team, they are too busy sweating, bonding, and learning. It's just fodder for us.

[rbanerjee23]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Held hostage for months? Lol. He missed like 2 mandatory practices. For the record I think he should have been here for everything in the offseason, but this needs to stop now. MS is perpetuating this already stupid circus.

There wouldn't have been such a backlash from his teammates if it was as paltry as you're making it out to be. Sacrificing team chemistry by not attending even one meeting as one of the most important guys on the defense, if not the team, while getting paid the most in the organization is akin to holding the team hostage.

And this circus you're talking about, I'm pretty sure that it only appears that way to us on the outside. Within the team, this is building up Shanahan's credibility even more and putting AH, who is essentially a child, in line -- exactly what a child needs.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

not to take anything away from MS cause he is a really good head coach, but i think john elway had a little something to do with that. let's not forget that this is the same guy that changed defensive coordinators every year and he drafted maurice clarett.

Clarett was at one time an upcoming star RB. They took a chance and failed it happens. All I'm saying is this whole organization hasn't had a HARD ASS coach in years. I love Joe Gibbs but he was more laid back in his 2nd stint. MS is rebuilding this franchise, we could always have JZ back instead.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

There wouldn't have been such a backlash from his teammates if it was as paltry as you're making it out to be. Sacrificing team chemistry by not attending even one meeting as one of the most important guys on the defense, if not the team, while getting paid the most in the organization is akin to holding the team hostage.

And this circus you're talking about, I'm pretty sure that it only appears that way to us on the outside. Within the team, this is building up Shanahan's credibility even more and putting AH, who is essentially a child, in line -- exactly what a child needs.

Exactly! Thank you!

[Gmanc711]

I think I'm gonna go up to my old high school tommarow and see if I can pass the test....