RGIII Named Starter

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

I've seen this comment more than a few times this offseason from a variety of sources and I just really don't get it. Other than appeasing an impatient fan base, what exactly would this accomplish?

The analysis came out last week that Shanahan has replaced all but 15 players from the roster he inherited (and that assumes that Moss & Cooley return in 2012). Also, we have drafted more players (21) than any other team in the league the past 2 years. AND, by the way, we just drafted our franchise QB for the next decade who just happens to fit, according to ALL NFL experts, perfectly in the offensive system he and his son run.

So according to you, if we improve to 7 wins he should be fired and we start over AGAIN? Help me understand what the logic is other than bloodlust? What results would you expect in 2013 from the team he specifically built to suit his vision from another coach/regime?

Franchises like the Lions and Bengals have been turned around completely in three years and (especially w/ Detroit) starting way further down in terms of talent than Mike inherited in Washington. He chose to make the transition even harder by blowing up the defense.

Point is good coaches have shown three years is sufficient to turn a franchise around. The notion we won't find a better coach is absurd. Mike has made myriad mistakes here already that are on him and him alone...starting this year the results fall on his shoulders and it's time to put the legacy argument to bed.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Franchises like the Lions and Bengals have been turned around completely in three years and (especially w/ Detroit) starting way further down in terms of talent than Mike inherited in Washington. He chose to make the transition even harder by blowing up the defense.

Point is good coaches have shown three years is sufficient to turn a franchise around. The notion we won't find a better coach is absurd. Mike has made myriad mistakes here already that are on him and him alone...starting this year the results fall on his shoulders and it's time to put the legacy argument to bed.

So apparently copying and pasting ones own previous post now qualifies for discussion. Must be the offseason.. Prediction, Shanny gets a contract extension after next season.

Anyways, to unhijack the thread, I'd expect to see some tenets of a no huddle/spread as a part of the offense this year. We may see some more of the smoke screens for 4-6 yards, line up quickly, shotgun draw, then a couple of quick passes before a deep shot. I think Mike and Kyle are drooling at the possibilities.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

So apparently copying and pasting ones own previous post now qualifies for discussion. Must be the offseason.. Prediction, Shanny gets a contract extension after next season.

Anyways, to unhijack the thread, I'd expect to see some tenets of a no huddle/spread as a part of the offense this year. We may see some more of the smoke screens for 4-6 yards, line up quickly, shotgun draw, then a couple of quick passes before a deep shot. I think Mike and Kyle are drooling at the possibilities.

this season or next season?

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Anyways, to unhijack the thread, I'd expect to see some tenets of a no huddle/spread as a part of the offense this year. We may see some more of the smoke screens for 4-6 yards, line up quickly, shotgun draw, then a couple of quick passes before a deep shot. I think Mike and Kyle are drooling at the possibilities.

(Posted earlier)
I got no questions about whether Griffin can handle the no huddle.
I love talking about the no-huddle in abstract but I don't see how or why people think we would use it more often.
In the past this offense (Mike/Kyle) hasn't been a no huddle offense.
And if we're speaking honestly the performance in 2 minute and hurry has been lacking regardless of the QB (McNabb/Rex).
With McNabb the excuse was he didn't know the offense with Rex there was no excuse. (equipment malfunction?)
I'm sure Kyle will improve with his hurry-up/2 minute offense/playcalling as he gains experience but I think its a hellavu strecth to think we're suddenly going to become a no huddle offense from what we've seen and where we are thus far.
I think its far more likely that they'll work to increase the tempo i.e. get in and out of the huddle quickly, get to the line quickly with time on the playclock etc.

If I were gambling on a team likely to run the type of offense some fans think we'll run (up tempo, no-huddle, with some zone-read, WCO) I would look at the Dolphins.

[los panda]

stability is important to me. did he sign a 4 year contract? 5 year contract? give him the length of the contract

[donofriose]

I think the problem is Snyder. Get rid of him and everything will change but we cannot

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by donofriose

I think the problem is Snyder. Get rid of him and everything will change but we cannot

Like coaches, owners evolve and learn the right way of doing things. I think Snyder has come a far way from the impetuous fan that walked in and fired half the staff. Sure we haven't won anything, but if he is finally getting it (which I think is the case) it would be ridiculous to want to go right back into the arms of another billionaire owner who has no clue how to run an NFL franchise. Case in point - Miami. This is not a McDonalds franchise that has a standard boiler plate operation, it takes patience, perserverance, and dedication, with a strong willingness to win. I think DS has most, if not all, of those things, and that we are on the verge of seeing a new era in Skins football.

[ashvirtually]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Like coaches, owners evolve and learn the right way of doing things. I think Snyder has come a far way from the impetuous fan that walked in and fired half the staff. Sure we haven't won anything, but if he is finally getting it (which I think is the case) it would be ridiculous to want to go right back into the arms of another billionaire owner who has no clue how to run an NFL franchise. Case in point - Miami. This is not a McDonalds franchise that has a standard boiler plate operation, it takes patience, perserverance, and dedication, with a strong willingness to win. I think DS has most, if not all, of those things, and that we are on the verge of seeing a new era in Skins football.

Well said, and I agree.

There was an article in the Washington Examiner about this conundrum and learning process with Mr. Snyder, and I agree that he has come a long way from the guy who used to shell out $20 million dollars a pop for old and soon-to-be-has-been players, who treated the team like he was playing fantasy football.

If we're contenders in the next two or three years, he will be forgiven a LOT.

[NYCskinfan82]

So how many years do people think it will take Indy to turn it around. You have to factor in there starting out with a QB an unproven QB. But most people think a sure thing. Indy are also Blowing up the Defense from a 4-3 to a 3-4. So how long do you give them.

[30gut]

Dang, just when I thought we were actually gonna talk about Griffin and the possibility of the no-huddle.

[fanarchist]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Dang, just when I thought we were actually gonna talk about Griffin and the possibility of the no-huddle.

You made a great point earlier in the thread, and I think people resigned themselves to the idea that the chances are minimal of anything as progressive as the no-huddle being used spontaneously in situational mismatches was going to come out of this regime.

But I think anything that can accentuate the ability of our QB, who is obviously comfortable in the no-huddle, or that makes our system more dynamic, and unpredictable should be the goal. There are so many situations during a game that having the no-huddle in your arsenal can really shift the momentum, and change the overall pace. If it were me I'd consider this period an all out experimentation phase with RG3, but do I think that will happen here. Not likely.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Dang, just when I thought we were actually gonna talk about Griffin and the possibility of the no-huddle.

So the Redskins are going to run a no huddle with Griffin.....satisfied?

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[MTK]

Please make it stop.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Please make it stop.

You have the power, He-Man

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Please make it stop.

This. I feel like I lost track of where this went from being fun to being dull.