Expectations for the rest of the season...

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I'm not saying fire him, just that so far he's not doing a good job. And fair or not if he doesn't start winning some games he's going to be on the hot seat sooner rather than later.

The honeymoon is over, we need to start seeing some signs that he can get things on the right track. So far he's shown to have little command over the locker room and the team is seriously underperforming across the board.

I really believe that there isnt any coach out there that can win in in this dysfunctional organization.

It blows my mind that anyone could think the honeymoon is over because its barely even started. Its not like Gruden took over NE or Balt that are solid organizations that consistently win. He took over one of the worst team in the NFL that has been terrible for 20 years. It will be a miracle if he could get it turned around in 5 years.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Also shouldnt the polished superbowl winning coach be able to turn garbage into gold sooner than the rook? So again Shanny - the accomplished and polished super bowl winner needed five years to fix things. Gruden who inherited as big a pile of crap Shanny did is supposed to do it in ten weeks? Makes no sense.

Absolutely agree. What is going to be accomplished by firing Gruden after one year and not fixing anything else?

[donofriose]

10 games in and everyone is already giving up on the new coach.
I think people forget how bad this team was last year, and how much talent this team lacks.

[CRedskinsRule]

Let Gruden have a year to draft and build.
Let Griffin play this year and see if he develops in the pocket.
Lets get a safety who can replace Clark for effective safety play.
Lets stop making each game a melodramatic teen adventure series and let the professional players and coaches take this time to pursue their craft.

[Redskins247]

It's not going to matter if we think Gruden should be given more time, or should be fired...if the Skins only win say one more game or lose out, and RGIII continues to look as bad as he does now in this offense, Snyder will fire him. Because RGIII most definitely WILL BE HERE next year and will be the starter because Snyder loves him...and so Snyder will say Gruden cannot win with his QB...so he's out.

[skinsfan69]

Can't fairly judge Gruden until he gets his QB in here. Clearly, RG3 is not his guy.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Can't fairly judge Gruden until he gets his QB in here. Clearly, RG3 is not his guy.

Gruden isn't the first guy to take over a team and inherit a QB. For someone who's supposed to be a QB guru I'm not seeing much.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Gruden isn't the first guy to take over a team and inherit a QB. For someone who's supposed to be a QB guru I'm not seeing much.

Gruden cant make a silk purse from a sow's ear in only a few games.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by irish

Gruden cant make a silk purse from a sow's ear in only a few games.

Ok so we should have patience with Gruden, but not with the QBs. I get it.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Ok so we should have patience with Gruden, but not with the QBs. I get it.

This is RGs 3rd season. Sure he has had injury issues but he's not exactly a rookie anymore. I think you have to play RG3 for the rest of the season no matter what happens to see what he can do and if he can improve.

Patients is needed with both but players are easier to fit into an established system than fitting a system to 52 players.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Gruden isn't the first guy to take over a team and inherit a QB. For someone who's supposed to be a QB guru I'm not seeing much.

Maybe you're looking in the wrong direction? I love RGIII probably as much as you do, Matty, but maybe we need to admit that coaching up a player only goes so far until the player has to respond and show the ability to regurgitate what has been taught to him.

For example, I've had situations in my career where I've had a tough time figuring out how to program certain things. I have the skills, talent, and intelligence to do the job, but I was having a hard time "getting it". It took me longer, but once I figured out this particular skill, I was one the best ones at it. Maybe that's just what's wrong with RGIII. He's got the ability, the intelligence, the talent, but it's just going to take him a little longer. Maybe he's just not ready quite yet? And maybe the first step in taking the leap forward is for RGIII to admit that and accept his limitations. And once he's mentally "right", then it's much easier to work on those areas.

I still believe RGIII can be a great quarterback in this league, but he needs to admit he needs help and he's just not there yet. He needs to pair himself with a former great quarterback, someone who could just give him a glimpse into what it takes to be great. The preparation, the mental toughness - that's what he needs.

[over the mountain]

this got bad pretty quick.

i expect .. RG3 to play out the season barring a player revolt.

i expect Jay Gruden at some point having to give up his NFL playbook and just call easy to read plays for RG3 that is not dependent on precise timing like screens, drags etc.

i do not expect a vote of confidence in Gruden from allen or DS.

i expect to be offered free skins tickets for the rest of the home games.

[over the mountain]

shouldnt we give him the last 6 games before deciding his future?

wasnt that the clear plan going into the Minn and TB game?

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

shouldnt we give him the last 6 games before deciding his future?



wasnt that the clear plan going into the Minn and TB game?

Absolutely and it still is, but without conjecture it would be very quiet around here....

[Alvin Walton]

I cant believe I'm saying this but at the end of the season if hes mostly healthy (deep inhale) what is Griffins trade value?