Jay Gruden you are our only hope

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Kind of get the sense he is, don't you?

Solely based on the fact of the QB situation? If he had knowledge of the other stuff...? Jay seems tough, hope he wouldn't let this affect him. Bottom line, half the league seems to have questions at qb, even teams destined for the playoffs; this situation isn't all that different somewhere else is my point.

[mooby]

Can anyone think of any head coach who has started out his HC career like this and been able to turn it around with the same team and win Super Bowls? This makes me nervous, what if it's Jay who decides to leave after the season because he's not up to a total rebuild job with RG3?

I definitely feel like we're looking at a total rebuild job with RG3. I don't expect him to come out this week and suddenly look like he's got it, and I honestly don't expect that to happen at all this season. We might get lucky here and there, but if there's any hope at all at salvaging RG3's potential I think we have to commit for the long haul (aka 1+ season wasted). What if JG isn't up to that? All I can think is that if JG bails on us after a year we are set back for 1-3 years of failure, especially if the franchise bails on RG3. I'm honestly starting to think the "rebuild RG3" option with at least 1 wasted season might be our best chance at getting back our shot at true long term success with the least amount of time wasted.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by mooby

Can anyone think of any head coach who has started out his HC career like this and been able to turn it around with the same team and win Super Bowls? This makes me nervous, what if it's Jay who decides to leave after the season because he's not up to a total rebuild job with RG3?

I definitely feel like we're looking at a total rebuild job with RG3. I don't expect him to come out this week and suddenly look like he's got it, and I honestly don't expect that to happen at all this season. We might get lucky here and there, but if there's any hope at all at salvaging RG3's potential I think we have to commit for the long haul (aka 1+ season wasted). What if JG isn't up to that? All I can think is that if JG bails on us after a year we are set back for 1-3 years of failure, especially if the franchise bails on RG3. I'm honestly starting to think the "rebuild RG3" option with at least 1 wasted season might be our best chance at getting back our shot at true long term success with the least amount of time wasted.

Jimmy Johnson in Dallas comes to mind but his circumstances were different than Brother of Chucky's.

[redskin37]

The problem is RG3 not JG.

[kct1975]

Originally Posted by redskin37

The problem is RG3 not JG.

True but that's not the way Dan Snyder will see it at the end of the season

[SirLK26]

I wish I had a withering retort for that, but I don't. <sigh>

I still have faith in Gruden, but it's mostly based off the fact that he inherited a sh*tty team and needs time. He's won everywhere else he's been...

[Rotten1980]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

I wish I had a withering retort for that, but I don't. <sigh>

I still have faith in Gruden, but it's mostly based off the fact that he inherited a sh*tty team and needs time. He's won everywhere else he's been...

Well don't get me wrong, Jay is a likable guy, and he took over a crazy train. And he's our coach. Nothing wrong with rooting for him.

Gruden and RG should set their shit aside and realize the best case scenario is to win together.

[TheSmurfs22]

I like Gruden. He's got a hell of a job. As for RG3 and whether he's our qb of the future or not, I'm so over the drama it's only hurt in our franchise and made it a big joke. These boards this year have been so negative it's awful.

[sevier2]

I believe in Gruden. He's sitting in a situation he never would have imagined when signing on here and he's handling it well, as much as people don't believe.

He's exactly what the Redskins as a franchise need.

He's not going to let a QB, who's been in the league less than 3 years, run his team.

He's not going to allow anybody who misses team meetings (Amerson) to play on Sunday. Even if we're hurting at that position.

He's also not guaranteeing anybody a job because they're starters this year. Each and every player on this roster is going to EARN their spot. (Seattle anybody??)

We finally have a coach who is going to set the tone and get his players to respect and buy in to HIM. This is a team sport and he's not going to allow any players to rise above that fact.

Anybody who wants to get rid of Gruden needs to realize that this is what we've done for the past 15 years and where are we? We FINALLY have a competent coach who can motivate (the right) players. Getting rid of him starts yet ANOTHER rebuild which we don't need.

We need consistency and cohesiveness. Gruden can establish that.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by sevier2

I believe in Gruden. He's sitting in a situation he never would have imagined when signing on here and he's handling it well, as much as people don't believe.

He's exactly what the Redskins as a franchise need.

He's not going to let a QB, who's been in the league less than 3 years, run his team.

He's not going to allow anybody who misses team meetings (Amerson) to play on Sunday. Even if we're hurting at that position.

He's also not guaranteeing anybody a job because they're starters this year. Each and every player on this roster is going to EARN their spot. (Seattle anybody??)

We finally have a coach who is going to set the tone and get his players to respect and buy in to HIM. This is a team sport and he's not going to allow any players to rise above that fact.

Anybody who wants to get rid of Gruden needs to realize that this is what we've done for the past 15 years and where are we? We FINALLY have a competent coach who can motivate (the right) players. Getting rid of him starts yet ANOTHER rebuild which we don't need.

We need consistency and cohesiveness. Gruden can establish that.

Well said.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by sevier2

I believe in Gruden. He's sitting in a situation he never would have imagined when signing on here and he's handling it well, as much as people don't believe.

He's exactly what the Redskins as a franchise need.

He's not going to let a QB, who's been in the league less than 3 years, run his team.

He's not going to allow anybody who misses team meetings (Amerson) to play on Sunday. Even if we're hurting at that position.

He's also not guaranteeing anybody a job because they're starters this year. Each and every player on this roster is going to EARN their spot. (Seattle anybody??)

We finally have a coach who is going to set the tone and get his players to respect and buy in to HIM. This is a team sport and he's not going to allow any players to rise above that fact.

Anybody who wants to get rid of Gruden needs to realize that this is what we've done for the past 15 years and where are we? We FINALLY have a competent coach who can motivate (the right) players. Getting rid of him starts yet ANOTHER rebuild which we don't need.

We need consistency and cohesiveness. Gruden can establish that.

Great post. On the money.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by sevier2

I believe in Gruden. He's sitting in a situation he never would have imagined when signing on here and he's handling it well, as much as people don't believe.

He's exactly what the Redskins as a franchise need.

He's not going to let a QB, who's been in the league less than 3 years, run his team.

He's not going to allow anybody who misses team meetings (Amerson) to play on Sunday. Even if we're hurting at that position.

He's also not guaranteeing anybody a job because they're starters this year. Each and every player on this roster is going to EARN their spot. (Seattle anybody??)

We finally have a coach who is going to set the tone and get his players to respect and buy in to HIM. This is a team sport and he's not going to allow any players to rise above that fact.

Anybody who wants to get rid of Gruden needs to realize that this is what we've done for the past 15 years and where are we? We FINALLY have a competent coach who can motivate (the right) players. Getting rid of him starts yet ANOTHER rebuild which we don't need.

We need consistency and cohesiveness. Gruden can establish that.

And this is the 2nd coach to come to the same conclusion on RG3. It's not the system and its not the injuries. He can't see the field and has no pocket awareness. The rest of the team is playing for their futures and pay checks, and RG3 has been holding them back. Gruden had to do something to prevent an all out revolt.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by sevier2

I believe in Gruden. He's sitting in a situation he never would have imagined when signing on here and he's handling it well, as much as people don't believe.

He's exactly what the Redskins as a franchise need.

He's not going to let a QB, who's been in the league less than 3 years, run his team.

He's not going to allow anybody who misses team meetings (Amerson) to play on Sunday. Even if we're hurting at that position.

He's also not guaranteeing anybody a job because they're starters this year. Each and every player on this roster is going to EARN their spot. (Seattle anybody??)

We finally have a coach who is going to set the tone and get his players to respect and buy in to HIM. This is a team sport and he's not going to allow any players to rise above that fact.

Anybody who wants to get rid of Gruden needs to realize that this is what we've done for the past 15 years and where are we? We FINALLY have a competent coach who can motivate (the right) players. Getting rid of him starts yet ANOTHER rebuild which we don't need.

We need consistency and cohesiveness. Gruden can establish that.

And this is the 2nd coach to come to the same conclusion on RG3. It's not the system and its not the injuries. He can't see the field and has no pocket awareness. The rest of the team is playing for their futures and pay checks, and RG3 has been holding them back. Gruden had to do something to prevent an all out revolt.

[Gary84Clark]

When he put Colt Mc Coy in, he will seal his own fate.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

When he put Colt Mc Coy in, he will seal his own fate.

So ... it really isn't about wins for you. Colt McKoy, 2-0 as a Skins starter.

The Redskins are 3-17 in [Griffin's] last 20 full games played and he's not the same explosive player he was in 2012. He looked that way in the spring; but now he doesn't make defenders miss like he once did.

Second thoughts: Washington Redskins-San Francisco 49ers, Week 12 - ESPN

I knew it was unimpressive, but I just blanked out the math b/c I like the guy so much. All his fault? No. But as G84C so accurately pointed out in his criticism of KC, it's a bottom line league and RGIII's bottom line these last 20 games is 3-17.

3-17. Let that sink in for a moment.